Lucian Bute is a perfect example of how today's fighters can become champion without

Andrade beat his ass. I hate that ****ing clinch ***** ass hopkins style. Fighter who clinch all the time need to be ****ing shot.

 

Joppy is/was beyond shot by the time he fought Bute, and honestly he wasnt that good to start with. Joppy hadnt beat anyone of note since Eastman in 01, and he didnt REALLY win that fight. Zuniga is best known for losing to top guys. Those are NOT great wins or even really decent ones for a guy that is a belt holder. If he was a contender then those fights are ok but not as a champion. Pavlik was bashed for fighting Zuniga and he wasnt even a champion at the time.

While its true that many, many belt holders today have won titles without facing top guys, the thing that gets me about Bute is that he and Kessler seem to have alot in common, there is always talks of them fighting EVERYONE but the fights never happen, while the guys around them seem to be fighting eachother.

 

Dude that is boxing today...TOO many belts, too many belt holders. You cant single out Bute, there is a long list of fighters that have picked up belts without fighting elite fighters.

Vyacheslav Senchenko is the WBA welterweight champion and he hasnt even fought a top 20 welterweight.

Linares hasnt set the world on fire with is level of comp. Why not include him in this thread???

 

Joppy wasn't a worthy opponent, but he was a late replacement when Allan Green pulled out of a deal that was all but signed :deal

 

Other than Froch-Taylor (which was mandated by the ABCs), which of these fighters around them are fighting each other?

And I do agree with everything else you said there. Joppy was beyond shot and wasn't a worthy title challenger, but other than a few top P4P guys (i.e. Pacquiao, Marquez), I can't think of anyone who has fought 'worthy challengers' in each of their last 5 fights.

 

your doing hate thread of Bute once a week!

 

once a day!

 

Allan Green tried the same thing but was sick and got defeated by Miranda.

 

Bute is a champion. Green is not. Finito, you have a problem with that reality. Grow yourself an ulcer because that situation is not about to change.

 

Bute clinched once in all his career and it was a bad strategy for him. Maybe you could watch more than one fight before insulting a boxer.

 

He clinched against Berrio! Remember?