Lucian Bute is the best super middleweight in the world

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vladimir23, Apr 30, 2012.


  1. florin3k3

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    Is ward a stay at home disgrace?
     
  2. florin3k3

    florin3k3 Member Full Member

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    Wasn't ward down against Boone? Or is ward not a world champ either?!
     
  3. CloudManZ

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    I think he was being sarcastic. He's a Froch fan, Froch has been knocked down, and I think Tyler sees Froch as a champion regardless.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward is the best super middle weight !He's proven it on an elite level


    Right now Bute is still a work in progress !
     
  5. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    Darnell Boone is the best journyman fighter
     
  6. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bute is the best.

    Bika said it.

    Ward knows it.
     
  7. Serb Can

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    Checkers need to leave a spot open for Froch on the "unofficial" ESB Glass Jaw Rankings.
     
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  9. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    When I use ":hat", there's always some sarcasm. :yep
    :patsch
     
  10. Serb Can

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    Bute is too fluid, too much power. F**k hiding in Canada (Montreal), that's becoming a new hot spot for boxing and has nothing to do with it. It's only because Canada has taken a back seat over the last decade/century so it seems like hiding but if you ask me, there are new hiding spots on the map as of right now in the current boxing picture and Montreal is NOT it.
     
  11. mark.cooper

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    Was Ward already one of the best (if not the best) SMWs before stepping in the ring with Kessler? Or his topmost boxing skills just popped into existence by some sudden miracle in the first second of the first round of his Kessler match?
    If you choose the first option, then by the same argument you have to keep the doubt about where exactly have to be placed Bute's skills. Ward has proven he's a better boxer than Froch & Kessler but he has not proven he's better than Bute; actually no SMW has proven being a better boxer with respect to Bute (or with respect to Ward, by the same token). The only reasonable & objective conclusion is one doesn't know yet who is the best SMW, there has been no proof in such sense. One might build a fair case based on subjective interpretations or educated guesses keeping in mind what they've shown in the ring up till now, but that would be still no proof either.

    If you want to discuss about rankings, these are based on actual achievements, and here one can safely assert that Ward has to be placed on the #1 spot. But achievements may and do usually change very dynamically over time and so do the rankings too, while the actual strength of the fighters in their prime exhibits significantly slower variation rates. Therefore you cannot even hope to accurately transfer a ranking system by a monotonical one-to-one correspondence into a scale of actual strengths. As stated before, this thread is not about ratings but about alleged/inferred boxing skills.

    That's right. And it holds for Ward too.
     
  12. Imperial1

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    Really where the hell do you guys get your logic from ? Ward has proved that he is the best super middle weight in the ring ! This not hypotheticals ..It was proven by who he faced!



    What did Bute do to prove he is the best ? Have an undefeated record against a bunch of journey men ? I mean this is getting out of hand now ..I have never known any fighter to be called the best with out facing the best ! Its easy to look amazing against guys that are not on your level but really who has beat to get that claim ?

    For real you Bute fans need to watch more boxing !
     
  13. Master Lewis

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    I'm a boxing fan and u need to STFU. Ward have not fought Bute yet, he's no 1 at SMW but maybe not the best. I think he will beat Bute, if he dont get knocked out, but until then just keep your mouth shut....:good
     
  14. Imperial1

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    How bout you practice what you preach and shut the **** your dam self ! Until Bute finally does something in the division stay your ass silent !


    Ward has done much more in less time than Bute ! Deal with it..Now go eat a bowl of Bute dick !:good
     
  15. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    U mad, bro?

    Sèche tes pleurs. Uncle Mustafa is here to comfort you.:hey

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