Lucian Bute is The Ring #1 SMW (with GIFs)

True and smart!

 

My Rankings are based on everything, from styles, RESUME and potential future fights.
1.Lucian Bute
2.Carl Froch
3.Andre Ward
4.AA
5.Mikkel Kessler
6.Sakio Bika
7.Allen Green
8.Stiegletz
9.Direll
10.Karoly Balszay

 

Nice list i agree for the most part. I would have Ward or AA at 2 and 3 with Froch at 4.

by the end of the tourney Bute will not be #1.

 

Even with resume getting major factoring consideration, Froch @ 2 is way too high.

 

You know Ring M I thought about that and the thing with Froch is, I think he is somewhat underrated here, I understand the controversial decision and outrage after Direll but one cannot forget Pascal and Taylor add Direll to his resume and you have at the minimum a resume on par with anyone of the fighters mentioned. :good

 

You obviously knew the intention of my list int, I did try to study the resumes maybe more then I should have.

 

I thought he won the Dirrel fight clearly, close but clear in my eyes. Pascal still hasn't proven much imo. He won a vacant title against an unproven fighter. Wards win over Kessler trumps all of that imo. Kessler is going to drop him a few rankings anyway:good

AA has a great shot at winning this.

 

The problem with Pascal and Taylor is that those wins on paper are almost as deceptive as Dirrell.

Pascal, we now know, is much better suited to 175. A lot of previously "just pretty good" guys become far more formidable - even great - when they finally ascend to a comfortable bodymass. Case in point Tomasz Adamek.

As for Taylor - well, even without dignifying the ever-swelling "Taylor is shot, ruined by Pavlik" and "Taylor was always trash, got exposed by Pavlik" contingents - the fact is that even accepting that as a very good version of Taylor, it's a very good version of Taylor that damn near beat Froch. Froch did what he had to when the opportunity presented itself, but it was really a stroke of good fortune for him that Taylor's trademark late fade arrived on horseback just in time. Froch desperately needed that visit from the cavalry as victory was out of reach on the majority of the judges' cards.

He's definitely not underrated. Fortune smiles upon him, and he's got the rugged determination to take advantage of situations presented to him, but at the end of the day he simply isn't a world-beater. And with such a talent-loaded division, even with a couple of great wins on paper, it's tough to justify ranking him at or near the top.

 

Here's the deal with Froch's best three names on his resume, though:

Pascal -- won with no controversy but it certainly wasn't a dominating performance, and Pascal had many moments in that fight.

Taylor -- was getting outpointed throughout the fight until taking Taylor out late. This one loses even more luster when you consider Abraham did the same thing to Jermain, but was also outboxing him and outpointing him prior to the KO.

Dirrell -- Need I say more than what has been discussed on here a billion times?

So, in Carl's case, although his resume has some big names on it, NONE of those fights have been totally dominating or convincing victories. That, I believe, has to factor into the overall rankings of these guys.

 

I am the first to admit, there are some great posters on ESB and you are one of them, I respect your opinion and agree with it.

 

Like I complimented Ring, same to you man, valid and intelligent response I can also agree with:good

 

:good

 

Wow, well thanks for such a great compliment. didn't expect that...

 

Yeah, we were used to the uppercut to the body, which is still very nice, but that short left to the chin was new for Bute. He's still able to improve.

 

well according tothe Ring's rules if Froch and Ward remain in their spots and fight each other #2 and #3 they could be crowned champ. so all in all at he end of the Tournament we could see the That happen the 2 fianlist in the tournament would be rankend at 168 1 and no less then 3 so the 1st seed could be #1 and the Second seed could be # 2 or 3 so the winner could become champ with out having fought Bute