~ Lucian Bute v. Librado Andrade ~ who wins and why?

He'd be better off guns blazing/workrate against Kessler and juicing his stamina up big time, he's got the chin to take punches. Trying to boxing with Kessler is just going to get him torn to pieces, like Jeff Lacy was.

Going guns blazing against Calzaghe gets you shredded with punches, against Kessler is you know what you're doing, it can give you success.

Trying to outbox Kessler, unless you're a genius fighter like Calzaghe, you're going to be systematically destroyed in a very painful fashion.

 

After the third round against Bika, Larouche said to Bute (in french): Where is Lucian Bute? We need him tonight to win the fight. He didn't yell at him, he just made him understand he was not himself at the beginning ot the fight. Bute came back and at the end of the fight, Bika could not figure out Bute anymore. Not able to hit him nor avoiding being hit. I know from that moment that Bute can adapt in a ring, and that his trainer ia able to motivate his boxer. Against Berrio, it tooks 2 rounds to Bute to let his hands go. Against Joppy, not even 5 seconds. The guy is comfortable now at the summit of the mountain.

 

Obviously a great post. The main reason Bute seems hesitant or doesn't let his hands go as much as he should sometimes...comes from his coaching with Larouche as a trainer. They make him fight being cautious first and foremost....

But honestly the guy has an impressive skillset available when he uses it !!

 

Same goes with Andrade - it's safe to assume that he evolves as well.

The last bit - is that a hope or a prophecy?

 

Bute should do this, but having studied them more recently I'd say not without trouble. It is also very possible Andrade could break him down if he is too cautious, or his footwork isn't spot on, so it wouldn't be considered a big upset if Andrade won.

I think Bute will pull out something around 8-4 7-5.

 

Yeah, thats what I said specifically as a prime example for the styles. Bute always starts slow, his trainer is an idiot for making a guy who's got good speed, a very good chin and seemingly good durability into a cautious fighter.

He looked to be effective early on with combinations and speed, this would suit him against Librado, land a vicious combo to stall him out. Instead, he'll fight his normal route, get lost, and get brutalised.

This is all the fault of a totally moronic trainer who did not correctly create the proper development for a guy with potential.

A cautious boxer-puncher without a good defence and without workrate and precision is going to really get owned by Andrade, just like Stieglitz did. I expect Bute to do better, but not much better and expect him to last until the later rounds, but you better believe Andrade is going to bring his best.

Kind of irritates me also that interbox is drawing this out until later this year, Andrade's style is best suited to be active. Bute also, again, ****ing moronic company and trainer.

Bute with someone legit, probably would have been predicting him, but it's how it is. And Bute has not improved a single ounce, it's just that Berrio is not a good pressure fighter, albeit having big power, which Bute took and why I was impressed with his chin and that Joppy is shot to pieces. If anything Joppy proved how cautious they have Bute fighting, here's a guy that should have been blasted out in 2-3 rounds. Bute still showed the same flaws against Bika with Berrio and Joppy and instead of keeping him active, they have him inactive, how smart of them. The difference is that Bika's a little trickier than those two and was able to score some rounds in and almost make it near a draw.

 

And that is ridiculous, he has handspeed, decent power, timing and seemingly a very good chin. **** the defence, he will never have a great defence, let him have his hands going, moving constantly and throwing a lot behind a well schooled jab and he would not only be more effective, but get hit less because his offense would overpower many fighters.

That just shows the incompetence behind the trainer and team.

You guys want to tell me that the Bute who fought Bika, Berrio and Joppy cautiously and with low workrate, showing vulnerability to pressure is to be favoured over a relentless machine like Andrade?

If he had serious power, I'd reconsider, but there is no equilizier to keep Andrade off of him, he is not a good boxer and they are forcing him into an unnatural style when he ought to be really looking for a high workrate style.

He cannot reproduce what Kessler did as a schooled boxer-puncher and I know that's what they want him to do, so he'll get on the wrong end of Andrade and that'll be it. He's 29 years old or so and is likely at his physical prime, they have wasted it with this poor development.

 

I can't wait, it's an exciting fight anyway, though, I call them as I see them.

Just like some of these biased imbecile's picking Miranda just off of european hate, we told them Abraham would spark that dirty, mouthy embarassment Miranda. Some things just work on styles alone, not like Abraham is great, not like Andrade is great etc.

Abraham could beat Andrade, Bute would easily outpoint Abraham, round and round we go.

 

So, you say Bute won against Bika and Berrio while not fighting his style. That tells you how good he is. You have to see the Larouche strategy like this: he goes for the long term, not the easiest win. I agree it's frustrating for the fans. But I don't agree with you on his defense. Look again at all his fights: nobody touches him in the latter rounds. A southpaw does not defend the same as an orthodox.

 

When is it again?

When is the fight? This is definitely the most interesting fight since Pavlik and Kessler's last fights - and they were mostly interesting for the Pavlik KO waiting and Kessler's near picture perfect skill-set and Sartison's 0 defeats. But this will in one way be even more interesting - because I expect them to be matched more evenly. No doubt Bute is more technically skilled than Andrade and I think Bute HAS TO be the favourite, BUT Andrade will be a tough nut to crack is he fights to his best ability.