Lucian Bute vs. Librado Andrade coming up on Friday

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Oct 20, 2008.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Anyone interested?

    I think it will be a very good fight. I am also surprised that except for a few Andrade die hards and a few Bute "critics", few here pick Andrade to win, even though:

    i. Andrade's improved since he fought Kessler
    ii. Andrade has a style advantage over Bute that he never had against Kessler, for example
    iii. Andrade will come to win, not just to take part, like he did against Kessler, for example
    iv. Bute likes to control the pace of the fight and keep it low tempo, to take advantage of his technical and tactical superiority, and good footwork - something he will not be able to do against Andrade who will keep coming forward and throwing
    v. Bute is safety-first and doesn't like it when fighters keep moving forward at him aggressively, the way Andrade always does - something that he won't be able to avoid against Andrade.
     
  2. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Bute could avoid Andrade's pressure all night long if he wants to just by moving faster than Andrade. You don't think so?
     
  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bute is the more complete fighter, but you never know how they'll match up head to head. And Andrade's head is made of cast iron.
     
  4. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People here write a fighter off after a loss especially like the one sided loss Andrade had with kessler. I honestly dont think its gonna be an easy fight for bute lets see how he deals with this pressure.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I don't know. I see no reason to be as confident as you are, in any case. Bute has never been against anyone who can just walk right through any punches thrown at him and keep throwing for 12 rounds. Very few could, unless they were good enough to do what Kessler did: use that piston-like jab and his right hand, for 12 rounds. Kessler looked spent by the end too; I am not sure he could have kept it up for another three rounds, say. Bute cannot just act like a bullfighter in there for 12 rounds and win the fight. Andrade will not allow it. Bute's movement might be good enough but his defence isn't. Bute is no Hopkins and Andrade has the wrong style for him.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Bute's skills,speed,footwork,stance will all make it for a win for him.Andrade will not get close to him except if Bute wants him to get close
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Styles make fights. Complete fighters can go out of the window against the wrong style if they're not versatile and good enough, whereas more one-dimensional fighters could come up trumps, if they do something really well that happens to work.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    In that case Bute's footwork and defence must be much better than anything we've seen from him before. I doubt that.
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Great fighters perform better under pressure,I think this will be that kind of performance,besides his footwork and defence are good to take Andrade.If Andrade can't get off he will be ok
     
  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You need to rewatch the Kessler fight. Andade was in there to fight even in the 12th... he showed more heart in losing than Pavlik, Lacy and Tarver combined... just couldn't do sh*t like the others.

    By the way, TERRIFIC fight, IMO the trouble will catch up late for Bute and Andade will make it close. But the safe bet here is Bute on points comfortably, I'm going with that one for the moment. Librado is easy to hit, has serious holes in his defense, having problems if they break his offense, but it's always a pleasure to watch...
     
  11. jammerdk

    jammerdk Member Full Member

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    Yep I bet you Kessler is watching :D
     
  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    And shakin:D
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Andrade has improved in every fight since his fight against Kessler, a fight he was underrated in, anyway. He will improve even more for Bute, because he's coming to win. Even if he continues to be relatively easy to hit and so forth, he will still be a very dangerous opponent because he will keep on moving forward aggressively and throwing everything but the kitchen sink. I agree with you; Andrade will go out on his shield against Bute. If against Kessler he was just happy enjoying being in a title fight against his old sparring partner he looked up to, with no expectations of winning, things will be very different against Bute.
     
  14. jammerdk

    jammerdk Member Full Member

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    Yep shakin the dice on which hand he should put him to the canvas with :!:
     
  15. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    I've always regarded Andrade as a sloppy, clumsy, inaccurate oaf with terrible defence, and I still believe he is all those.

    However, his iron chin and ability to apply pressure will make him dangerous to guys like Bute.

    I originally picked Bute to win this with a fair bit of ease, but I'm not so sure now, I'm probably still favouring him, but wouldn't be surprised if Andrade grinded him to the ground.

    Bute is no Kessler imo, but this is his chance to see just how close to him that he is, although I think he wont fight like the way Kessler fought against Andrade. I think he will be on the retreat during spells of this fight.