Lucian Bute would stop Jermain Taylor and win a decision over Kelly Pavlik at 168

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  1. Paulie

    Paulie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bute TKO Taylor and Pavlik...
     
  2. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares as long as THN confirm it :D
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Taylor beats Bute but Bute beats Pavlik?:think Interesting...
     
  4. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Decebal you drive people to drink....and take bong hits:rasta
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    Sorry, mate!

    It's good to plan ahead in this case because Bute is in the mix at 168 and wants this fight...Not many other contenders out there have the flexibility that Bute and Kessler have; Kessler is too dangerous, so that leaves Bute.
     
  6. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well for the record I rate Bute ahead of Kessler for the time being for reasons I've stated before about Kesslers mental capacity after being beaten combined with a lull in activity...I'll be watching to see how well he comes back which may change my view...on that note any word on when Kess will return??
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He said he would return in summer against a "name opponent".
     
  8. RealIzm

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    That's too much ****ing time mate...Now I'm really baffeled on how we can begin to carry Kessler in our arms :huh
    The guys head hit the shithouse during that fight with Joe combine that with about 8 months of inactivity.....and were acting like he's going to dominate the world? Beat Taylor? Beat Pavlik?

    Incredibly baffeling:nut
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Kessler called Bute out and Bute said he'd be ready to fight Kessler only by Spring 2009 at the earliest! They're all running scared of him. He cannot get a fight, mate!
     
  10. RealIzm

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    Thats abit more baffeling......still you don't think thats too much time off???
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He wanted to fight Bute in Spring! Bute, rightly told him to **** off! He admitted he wasn't ready for such a talented and strong opponent yet.

    He wanted to fight Winky! He wanted to fight the Americans at 175...they're all ducking the chance to face him, man! Also, he recovering from that hand operation...

    ...not his fault.
     
  12. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Well it is far too much time off. But I still believe Kessler to be the top dog at 168 now that Joe has left.


    Kessler is the most gifted fighter at 168 although Bute could spell trouble in the near future.

    Remember; Calzaghe said that he had to use his plan B against Kessler - Kessler couldnt adapt to this, change his plan and make it a fight.

    Joe outsmarted Kessler and I think this shows that Kessler needs experience fighting the big fights against very good opponents. Kessler has fought 39 times - 34 or so of these are against nobodys.

    But Kessler will come back as a better fighter after this defeat. As a more adaptive and seasoned fighter. The good sound fundamentals that he has will be intact.

    The 8 months wont do much. He has always been a very inactive fighter - which is a shame!
    Also - as stated by Decebal - he is a risk/reward nightmare.

    Plus he has a very shitty management.
     
  13. RealIzm

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    I agree with about everything mate
    Just not sure how sound he will be mentally....I wish him the best
    I agree he does have shitty management...I'm surprised Miranda hasnt called him out yet:lol:
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pavlik deserves some credit. He fought Taylor at 166 which was Taylor's wish. Pavlik had to fight with biased judges and as always the biased Harold Ledermann, who had Quintana losing to Williams. Pavlik landed many more blows, yet was criticized, yes, criticized for knocking Taylor's head back like a punching bag. Pavlik should have gone ahead and stopped Taylor, but did not turn it up quite enough, although almost. Pavlik did not run out of gas, he trained hard. I think he should stay within his weight division for a while and enjoy the big wins. I appreciate someone like him, he can't "always" win by knockout.
     
  15. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Bute would stop Pavlik. Pavlik can't handle any good defensive fighters and definitely can't handle a mover with solid skills and good power at SMW. If Taylor could hurt Pavlik and a few MW's could stun/drop him, Bute (who hits more than twice as hard as Pavlik) would crack his chin after punishing him for 6-10 rounds. Berrio is a much bigger puncher than Pavlik at 168 and Bute took his shots, so Pavlik's power is not a real factor in the fight and wouldn't matter much anyways because of his predictable, sloppy offense.

    However, Taylor would stop Bute. His quick, accurate jab would land effortlessly and Bute wouldn't be able to handle his high pace attack for 12 rounds. They don't call him Bad Intentions for nothing. One big signature Taylor right hand and the night is over for the young Romanian.