Lucian Bute would stop Jermain Taylor and win a decision over Kelly Pavlik at 168

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Berrio was DANGEROUS as hell! Let's not forget that. He could be stopped, but he could trap you and kill you too, in a way that Bika couldn't, for example. A good boxer like Bute had more to fear from Berrio than from Bika.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Stoppages, both.
     
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  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well that covers all bases...:lol:

    Bute wins or Bute loses by...
     
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  4. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Yes he had a good punch - I'll give you that. But not a top ten'er.
     
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Good dangerous/tricky punch...:yep
     
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  6. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    A welterweight version of prime 122 Guzman would own Taylor's ass at MW and that's no joke.

    Taylor KO 2 Povetkin BTW.
     
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  7. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    I disagree. Wide UD is better. Povetkin has a pretty good chin.
     
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    OK...so what do you really think about Bute v. Pavlik and Bute v. Taylor?
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

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    Regardless of any question marks on Bute's chin at the moment, we know things about Taylor and Pavlik that make a premature finish a safe bet.

    Taylor and Pavlik can be hurt by a good punch. We know Taylor's power at middleweight is negligible and Pavlik's is overrated and dependent on a volume attack that is untested against boxers who can move well...

    It is indeed a case of either one of them having to stop him before being stopped themselves, and neither having the toolset to do it.
     
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  10. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I have very little doubt that he would stop both of them. If Brooklyn and Amsterdam both see something the same way, at least 95% of the time I see it that way too.
     
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  11. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    More like a good, tricky, evasive, smooth, silky, ninja'ish, invisible, horsekick of a punch.

    The rest was utter rubish. But man - that punch sure is something. :)
     
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  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :good
     
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  13. laffie

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    Jean Pascal is still a beginner compared to Bika. Not the same league. Have you seen Pascal fight? Or you just consider his ranking?
     
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  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    I know I sound a bit strange, but I truly think Berrio was dangerous because he was so unpredictable and led you into a false sense of security. He looked so casual, fighting, throwing his punches, so relaxed...and then...boom...and you were out...Bute was caught out hard a couple of times...harder than ever before...had he not had a very good chin indeed, he would have been out, that's for sure, good boxer or not. He was a very tricky fellow and he is underrated by many because of his crappy chin. Shame, really.

    :good
     
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  15. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Well I guess youre right. I saw Berrios fight against Stiegliz - and man did he look rubbish. But I agree that he is awkward and can lure people into traps. But he would imho still loose to Andrade, Bika, and the likes.
    :good
     
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