Lucifer Hearn is a mf liar that cant be trusted...Deontay Wilder

It doesn't stand. It completely destroys your point.

 

Lol! I guess “over 1.1 million” could be 2 million, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what you meant. And it is a huge difference in getting over 1.1 million people to watch a fight for free as opposed to paying $75-$95 to watch it. Wilder is not a draw. He makes Andre Ward look like Mr Popular Household Name; that why Deontay is so frustrated.

 

How so?

Are of you of the belief that this isn't a 100+ million fight when Joshua sells out 90,000 stadiums fighting old men who the British public need to be clued up on?

You're not going to win this argument.

 

Could end up being Hearn's laundry worker! Washing Joshua's pants and Nichols' gravy stained t-shirts.

 

He's not a draw so why is he mentioned all the time over here in British media? The reason why he's not as big as a draw as AJ, is because he doesn't have the same kind of backing as Joshua and every time he's tried to fight big names, they failed drug tests.

By now he should already have Povetkin on his resume along with Joseph Parker and Tyson Fury who were all in line to fight Wilder until they took completely different paths through either getting banned or choosing to fight a lesser opponent.

The reason why Wilder is frustrated is due to the fact that he has done everything in his power to try and get the biggest Heavyweight fight made and Team AJ were hellbent on not getting it done.

 

I keep correcting you for either lying, or at least playing fast and loose, about Deontays numbers and the fact that he’s never done ppv and you keep changing the subject and / or downplaying it. Did you go to the Shadow111 school of Internet?
As far as wilder being known in the uk it’s probably because he’s the best opponent for Joshua. It doesn’t make him a draw. And Deontay didn’t seem to have any problem fighting Ortiz...who was previously busted twice for PEDs.

 

I don't do lies.

I conceded that I was mistaken in regards to the viewing numbers. However it no way proves that the numbers/viewers wouldn't increase just because of previous low interest.

The Manny vs Floyd made an estimated 500 million. Do you think Manny's previous fights came anywhere close to those figures?

You ask the majority of boxing fans today what fight they'd like to see most in the heavyweight division and it's Deontay Wilder vs Joshua and thatch inboth Britain and in America.

As for Ortiz the second failed test wasn't steroids, it was failing to disclose blood pressure medication.

You need to be asking why Joshua ducked Ortiz after he was his mandatory, not asking me why Wilder fought him when nobody else dared to go near him.

 

You were mistaken about the numbers because you lied to the forum desiring to make your point more powerful, disgusting, bag in the day we would take you behind the shed and whoop you for that.

You dirty rotten two faced forum lair.

 

You found a second wind I see.. It's a shame your boy ran off whilst you failed to address any of the points I made to you in the other thread.

It's child's play putting you Eddie Hearn and AJ nuthuggin vermin back in your places before you scatter off underneath the floorboards and I don't even need to step into 1st gear to deal with you paid and unpaid goons.

If you don't run you resort to deflecting and moronic trolling attempts at being funny and ironic.

 

Can we agree to disagree??

I seriously think Wilder refused to sign for 15 mill because he fears if he is beat thats his last huge pay day.

Maybe, i'm wrong but thats the way i see it.

If i am confident i take the insulting 15 mill and i WIN and then i control all future lions share of every single win thereafter.

However, if i fear i will loose i hold out for a more hoping the fight will grow as the fans wait.

 

Wilder is all talk. Always has been, always will be. Everytime he gets offered a big money fight, against a variety of top notch contenders, he turns it down and goes on the run screaming "everybody on PEDS! Anyone who offers me big money is the devil!". The idea that Joshua is getting used is laughable, Wilder has 3/4 managers/promoters milking every penny hes got and destroying his name. Fact of the matter is, Wilder is very happy where he is, being the heavily protected heavyweight tent boxing world chumpion and yelling non sense from the sidelines while everyone else in the heavyweight division keeps walking the walk. No interest in seeing him fight whatsoever. Bring on Joshua vs Povetkin/Miller/Furys/Joyce

 

Lucifer Hearn




Next week he'll be telling us he saw Hearn shapeshift.

I predict Deontay will start a YouTube conspiracy channel exposing the illuminati in boxing.

On the bright side of things, He will earn more money from YouTube than he does with his purses.

 

You're a lot better when you're not attempting to be funny.

At last you put forward a reasonable point.

And yes we are free to agree to disagree.

As I think Wilder is well within his rights to demand hold out for more money considering the potential value of the fight.

He helps bring value to what would be a super fight. And in a super fight in any division both men deserve to be paid well.

I keep going back to the examples of Manny and GGG who did not concede into accepting low ball offers. They stood their ground even though the offers they turned down were higher than they had ever received previously in their career and were subsequently rewarded with better terms due to the other party actually wanting the fight to happen. And let's not forget that when they rejected the unreasonable offers they were commended for doing so.

And so we can clearly see the agenda against Wilder at play here and double standards at work.

And I've heard (it may or may not be true as I did not pay too much mind to the low balling flat fee offers ) that Wilder was going to accept it granted the fight took place in September and Eddie pulled out a 48/78 hour deadline to fight Povetkin excuse as to why it would have to be in April.

Regardless that's not important because Wilder as WBC champion deserves better than getting shafted. Even the legendary champions of champions Lennox Lewis (a good friend of AJ) understand s Wilders value and deserves at least a 60/40 split.

Lastly we can never get away from the fact that Joshua rejected 50 million and made it abundantly clear throughout this saga that he was terrified of Wilder.

Now be honest for once in your life and tell me if you think any of the past heavyweight champions would turn down that kind of money because they don't want to fight outside their own country?

Even Usyk put Joshua to shame and showed him what a real champion does

USYK "FIGHTING AWAY IS FINE"

My biggest wish is for such fights and tournaments to take place as often as possible," said Usyk.

"Then, the boys will be more interested in going into boxing. I'm not worried about boxing in Moscow. It's a good thing that the fight takes place.

"To me, it's a common thing to go somewhere and box there."


That's a real champion! That's a true warrior! Not a belt holder holding their titles hostage so they are free to fight old chubby duds on home soil.