Lucky punch

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When a fighter - perhaps behind on points - has been stalking/maneuvering an opponent into a shot (like say, a Jose Medel, who would sucker one onto a counter), then I don't consider it a lucky punch. There was a method to the madness. But when one is traipsing after another fighter round after round, doing nothing different other than getting outpointed or hammered, and then throws a hail Mary with finishing results, then I consider that a lucky punch. Using that criteria I would call some lucky punches:

    Mike Weaver against John Tate
    Arnold Taylor v Romeo Anaya in their first fight
    Jorge Castro against John David Jackson in their first fight
    And even Alexis Arguello against Ruben Olivares
     
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  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weaver was looking for that left hook all night long tho. He hit Tate flush with it like 3 times, but had no effect. In the 15th, when Tate was exhausted, it paid dividence.
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I wish the term would go away. It makes it seem like the man scoring the punch didn't do it himself, in a way. Sure, we all might have some examples where a much lesser fighter managed to obliterate a guy at just the rare instance they would be vulnerable to it or open a cut when they were getting hammered, but it's such a bad term that I feel like there is no such thing.

    This is actually serving him right, because if that landed on Bryant, that would've been a dirty as hell shot. He's trying to do what Lennox did to Michael Grant. You don't hold a man behind the head and uppercut him without seriously increasing the danger to his brain. It's a total cunny move.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’ve always looked at this as a trap set by JJ.

    The man can’t see. His retinas are shot. So he can’t do anything with Herol trying to chase him and time him.

    What to do? Set up in a corner, make Graham come to him. And Herol bit hard, setting himself up right in from of Julian in punching range. Exactly where he wants him and where he couldn’t maneuver Graham any other way. Hawk drops the bomb, game over.
     
  5. Yorbals

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    I don’t think Graham could conceive of such a quick punch having so much power behind it.
    I always thought that punch was like a sneaky toe-poke in football, hardly any back lift but with surprising power, past the keeper before he knows what’s happened.
     
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  6. Homericlegend03

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    Lucky punch can be a bit of a cope for fans a fighter but there are such things as fortune punches that are very unlikely to happen again. Rahman did chase Lewis halfway across the ring to land the punch but it was a fortune punch in many ways because most times he would not even have the opportunity to land on Lewis like that let alone no him with that punch az the rematch proved. I dont like the term but we have realize that luck plays not only a huge role in boxing but in our lives. Deontay could've koed Fury in their first fight.
     
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  7. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    Honestly that straight from George on Moorer was a bit lucky, I dont believe George's story that he was setting it up for 9 rounds. He landed a hail Mary basically.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Only Tyson Fury could have taken such an earth-shattering punch from a 6'9 Gypsy warrior not born of his mother!
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe he landed it but not quite as solidly a bit before that and went back to the well.

    I do think his game plan was all around ‘land the big shot and win by KO’ because he wasn’t going to outbox Moorer for a decision. So whether he set him up for that specific shot for nine rounds or just played patient by studying and seeing where the openings might be and found it when he did, it wasn’t, imo, a ‘lucky shot.’

    He put 30-something stitches in Moorer’s mouth, right? That’s a lot of “lucky” damage, haha.
     
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  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Good point.

    Cliched but embedded with solid truth, one can make their own luck, even if it is preceded by frequent trial and error - a process which actually lends to landing the ultimate punch in question.
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I generally don't believe in lucky punches. The fighter put himself position to get lucky. If there was ever a lucky punch it would be that one with McCall's eyes closed in case he hits something swinging for the fences.
    Even Steward had him looking for that one particular punch and based their training camp around it.
     
  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Actually Foreman landed 4 punches in sucession. One-two stunned him so MM froze then the last one-two finished him.