Luis Concepcion ANNIHILATES Manuel 'Chango' Vargas In 76 Seconds/Marquez II INCOMING!

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  1. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Bumped for edited OP.
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I reckon Concepcion will stop him this time.
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Could definitely be the case, pending that El Nica has actually learned his lesson to the extent he appeared to have done in the short period the Chango fight lasted.

    He was stupidly right hand orientated in the first few rounds, he completely punched himself out within about 4/5 rounds by just wailing away with the right and putting absolutely everything behind them. Predictable, impatient, and careless are things he was that he can't afford to be again.

    He can't allow himself to disregard defense in the way he did the first time around, he had that awful tendancy to smell blood and launch right after right without paying attention to what's coming back at him. At least against Vargas he utilised his left hand, the way he lead with the hook/uppercut is something I'm not accustomed to seeing from him.

    Then again, he ended it with the trademark, so whether he's convinced himself to revert to type again or not is a worry.:yep
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Maybe, like Segura, he needed a Canchila moment to give him some stylistic clarity :yep
     
  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Maybe so:yep, poor Canchilla, just didn't work out for him in the end.

    Incidentally, I re-watched it today for the first time in months, and I had one of those moments where you just laugh because it's all so magnificent. I remember Teeto saying he'd often find himself laughing such was the brilliance of Manos de Piedra, I'm more one for laughing at moments that happened regularly from the first to the fourth round, unbelieveable action.
     
  6. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Oh, I can't wait for this fight "OMG", Their won't be no let down in this fight.
     
  7. Tommy O C

    Tommy O C VIVA LA MEXICO!!!! Full Member

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    Just saw something which reaffirms my belief Concepion takes the rematch. Marquez started camp 9 weeks ago with montiels brother, then changed to rudy perez and last week he switched to some other guy. That coupled with his rather portly look in the pics in this thread make me more confident in a win for Concepion
     
  8. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    :think Interesting. Thanks for the information, not exactly resplendent preperations for a battle of this magnitude. I'm quite confident anyways that El Nica can turn it around(as I say though, I may be overrating his ability to learn from his shortcomings) but I suppose these revelations can only help.


    Some more recent pics, Tyson looks in decent shape now:


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    :twisted: Bloody BScene not allowing me to embed pics!
     
  9. Tommy O C

    Tommy O C VIVA LA MEXICO!!!! Full Member

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    just checked out those pics. He does look trim but Id still be worried about the changing trainers. I will post the article that references that below.

    Has anyone seen Finito Lopez Jr? just saw hes on the undercard

    Boxing fans are in for a solid weekend of action. Nine boxers rated in The Ring magazine’s top ten duck between the ropes with three nationally televised bouts and four world titles hanging in the balance. Sadly, the best fight of the weekend is not aired by an English language TV network. Yes, the widely available Showtime, Fox Sports Net/ Fox Deportes and Telefutura screen bouts on American television but none of their fights could compare with a Hernan Marquez – Luis Concepcion rematch featuring a third of the action from the pair’s first brutal encounter. The Marquez - Concepcion clash tomorrow night is the most underreported fight of the week despite their initial meeting meriting serious consideration for “Fight of the Year” on any credible end-of-the-year list. This contest lacks nothing…except a wider audience.

    Mexican and Panamanian audiences (or those who have TV Azteca in America) had the satisfaction of witnessing the first fight between “Tyson” Marquez and “El Nica” Concepcion and it speaks to a lack of insight by American broadcasters that this is again the case for the rematch. Marquez and Concepcion are rated number one and two, respectively, by The Ring magazine and the winner emerges as the clear challenger to current The Ring magazine World Flyweight Champion Pongsaklek Wonjongkam. The Ring described Marquez and Concepcion’s first meeting as, “A brutal war of attrition that should be considered a fight of the year candidate for 2011.” Another positive is that both men are in their fighting primes, ages 23 and 26, and have shown a remarkable willingness to endure profuse physical punishment for the rights to call themselves “Champion.” Nationalistic pride comes into play as well, with Concepcion traveling to Mexico in an attempt to turn the tables on a Marquez who unseated Concepcion at the hallowed Arena Roberto Duran in Panama.

    “Epic” is a good word to encompass their first clash crammed into 33 minutes last April. They fired bombs at each other like opposing dreadnaughts on stormy seas, trading knockdowns and momentum shifts that kept the typically hard-to-please Hispanic audience on the edge of their seats for large stretches. The end came at the end of 11 feverish rounds with the ringside doctor ruling Concepcion’s broken and busted face (no other way to put it) had absorbed too much damage to carry on. Concepcion was willing to continue and Marquez’s face had been similarly swollen but his corner did a better job of pushing the swelling away from the eyes between rounds. ESPN’s Dan Rafael called the fight, “A see-saw battle. It was a stunning display of violence, a back-and-forth brawl in which both fighters were knocked down.”

    In the opening stanza, both men touched the canvas, with Concepcion taking the initiative pushing a physically stronger Marquez back with powerful straight punches. Marquez had to stand his ground to stem the assault and was dropped by a straight right hand. Rising at the count of seven, Marquez waded back into the fire with both fists. Absorbing punishment in the corner, Marquez shot back with a counter of his own, dropping Concepcion three seconds before the bell to end the round. The action did not slow much in ensuing rounds with Marquez getting the better of Concepcion for the majority of the fight, dropping the hometown hero in the third and tenth stanzas. The knockdowns did not temper Concepcion’s aggressive charges but he lacked precision and finesse (mostly with straight rights and uppercuts) to win over the judges despite visibly stunning Marquez on numerous occasions. Marquez, for his part, was surprisingly effective and accurate fighting off his back foot.

    In retrospect, the arc of the fight was easy to define once the strategies were unveiled. Concepcion only knows how to fight one way- plowing straight ahead throwing power punches up the middle. Marquez is known for doing the same but showed the versatility to use Concepcion’s aggression and repetitive punch selection against him. Both men were staggered and hurt on multiple occasions and despite Concepcion suffering three knockdowns, he looked like the fighter with the more dangerous punch if he could have landed it squarely. It was a fight that demands a rematch; think Micky Ward - Arturo Gatti I, explaining why the Mexico City press conference to announce their second meeting was standing room-only. Insiders and the American press are similarly hyped at the prospect of this rematch. The Ring magazine’s Doug Fischer wrote, “I strongly suggest you try to find a stream of the Hernan “Tyson” Marquez - Luis Concepcion rematch this Saturday. Those two flyweight badasses will deliver.”

    Marquez and Concepcion have each engaged a credible opponent since their last meeting with neither man showing negative effects from their torrid clash. Marquez defended his title against solid Filipino challenger Edrin Dapudong, basically scoring a one-punch stoppage in the third round when Dapudong waved the fight over himself after absorbing the big left hook that put him down for an eight-count. Concepcion needed two less rounds, using his potent right hand to dismiss 30-fight winner Manuel Vargas (who went 12 rounds with Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez) in 76 seconds. Each man had little problem with his foe despite clearly looking ahead to this clash since both spoke openly of the disdain for one another before these preparatory bouts. Marquez and Concepcion upped their kayo ratios to near identical 72% and 73% and each expects his rematch to increase that number in dramatic fashion.

    From the tone of the press conference in Hermosillo this Monday, a confident Concepcion sent a warning that his tactics would not change. “From the sound of the first bell, we are going go to go after him like a wounded animal. It is now time to settle accounts. I have no doubt that we will achieve another war but I shall come out of it triumphant.” Marquez, who has taken on the aura of a champion, sounded like he began to train for Concepcion the day after his first title defense. “I started getting Concepcion on my mind and I envision breaking and shutting his mouth. He’s deluded of what’s going to happen here in Mexico because I’m going to knock him out again.” Though clearly aware of Concepcion’s limitations, Marquez sounds willing to engage his challenger at a more primitive level despite showing he could outclass Concepcion in their last fight. “Concepcion’s style and mine is the same and a few months cannot change anything. If he wants a war, it’s a war he will have.”

    Eyebrows were raised and many insiders were caught by surprise when it was revealed on Monday that Marquez had replaced trainer Rudy Perez with comparatively unknown Jose Reyes. Just as curious is that Perez was not the man Marquez began training camp with nine weeks ago either. Manuel Montiel (brother of champion Fernando Montiel) guided Marquez’s started preparations and was on hand for other big fights, bringing quality sparring partners like former champion Hugo Cazares and Francisco Arce. No such names were present this time with Enrique Quevedo, Juan Rodriguez, and Jose Contreras imitating Concepcion’s belligerent chargers. No details were given about the last-minute switch of cornermen and it is unusual to see a change so close to a champion’s defense of the title. The champion does not seem tense or nervous in the buildup despite the unusual nature of his training camp and says he will have no problem executing game plans or making the weight.

    Concepcion’s camp saw no changes, though the Panamanian feels he might have readied himself for Marquez better than in their first fight. “I prepared a lot better this time, much better than I did for our first fight. I have been working on all the errors that I committed in the first fight and this time, things will be different. I’m going to show up on Saturday and shut a lot of mouths and regain my belt.” Marquez is more low-key than Concepcion and it took a while for Marquez to give voice to his championship swagger. “I feel that I’m going to end it by knockout. Now we know him. I’m going to box slowly. I want to give him a beating and if the knockout comes - I will welcome it. You couldn’t crack me in your backyard of Panama and won’t be able to before my people. I will pay him with actions, not words.”

    Yes, action. There will assuredly be a lot of it with this dynamic duo, so tune in…however you can!
     
  10. jpab19

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  11. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

    who's staying up for this.

    i think Finito Lopez JR was on Premier sports a while ago, maybe on the Alveraz Rhodes undercard
     
  12. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Segura-Calderon i think cos Rhodes wasn't televised live IIRC.
     
  13. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    ah good point, altho i stayed up and watched it, but your probably right
     
  14. perspicacity

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    What time are we talking for this ?
     
  15. Tommy O C

    Tommy O C VIVA LA MEXICO!!!! Full Member

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    Seems my concerns about tyson switching trainers weren't very valid at all now were they