Luis Cruz vs Juan Carlos Burgos on Pacquaio/Marquez undercard

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  1. SportsLeader

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    Excellent fight. Good matchmaking to set this one up.

    Cruz is unbeaten (19-0) and considered one of the top prospects in the Super Featherweight division. He's a technician. Not particularly athletically skilled: He's not too quick, or very agile either. However despite his shortcomings in those departments, he's a very well rounded and skilled operator. Luis is a thinking mans fighter. A quality counter puncher, especially with a very well timed hook and uppercut. His jab is good and there aren't any obvious flaws with his footwork. The only major problem with Cruz is that he doesn't deal too well with pressure - Martin Honorio showed this when he gave Luis a close run earlier this year. Cruz doesn't press the action much himself, he prefers a chess match, where his oft-superior technical skills get the job done for him. If he wants to beat Juan Carlos this weekend, he's going to have to bring his A-Game. A win could really propel him into World title contention.

    Burgos is 27-1, with his sole loss coming in a 2010 fight of the year candidate against Hozumi Hasegawa for the vacant WBC title. He's a tough boxer/pressure fighter, with the emphasis on pushing his opponents back and outfighting them. He's not the most skilled fighter, but is tough, determined and may just have the right style to overcome Cruz, who has shown in past fights that a fighter who 'brings it' to him may be a nuisance for him. Cruz is justifiably favoured, but Burgos will not be an easy fight for hm.

    Anyone got any views/preidictions on this one?
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Burgos looked far less crude than I imagined he'd be against Hozumi.

    My FOTY for 2010 that was :D
     
  3. harvinmagler

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    One to look forward to, remember watching Burgos a few times on ESPN Friday night fights.
     
  4. SportsLeader

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    A fine fight. A bit slow paced for my liking, but some quality action.

    I've only seen him the once. What did you reckon of him from your viewings? :think
     
  5. venusdiablo

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    Pacquiao vs Marquez III:
    More Than Just A Main Event
    WBO Welterweight Title
    When: 12th November Live from the MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas
    What: Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez
    Where: All on Primetime: Sky channel 480, Virgin Media ‘On Demand’ and online at www.primetimelive.co.uk

    Pacquiao vs Marquez III is almost upon us, but this isn’t a card focussed only on the main event. As well as the main event there are title fights all the way through the card. Timothy Bradley is defending his WBO Light Welterweight crown against Joel Casamayor, Mike Alvarado defends his IBF Latino Light Welterweight title against Breidis Prescott and Luis Cruz battles Juan Carlos Burgos for the NABO Super Featherweight belt.

    Cruz vs Burgos features two up and coming fighters that are looking to push themselves into the World title picture. So let’s spend a little time getting to know these fighters that could well put on the fight of the night.

    LUIS CRUZ
    Record: 19-0 (15)
    Age: 26
    Home: Las Piedras, Puerto Rico
    Nationality: Puerto Rico
    Height: 5’9

    Could Luis ‘El Atresano’ Cruz be the next big thing out of Puerto Rico? Well he trains with Miguel Cotto, and could be knocking on the door of a world title shot should he win tonight.
    He was born in the USA and moved to Puerto Rico when he was three years old. He has picked up national honours as an amateur before turning pro in 2007 as a 21-year-old and has remained unbeaten ever since.
    Currently WBO number two, WBA number five, WBC number four and IBF number three. He picked up that high WBO ranking after winning the WBO Latino super-featherweight title. While there may not be much by way of big names on his record, his last opponent, Antonio Davis, was a former world title challenger. Cruz beat him in six rounds.
    Cruz has 15 stoppages to his name, including five in the first round, and this will be his first time scheduled for 12 rounds. He's had seven scheduled 10 rounders, only hearing the final bell twice.
    JUAN CARLOS BURGOS
    Record: 27-1 (19)
    Age: 23
    Home: Tijuana
    Nationality: Mexico
    Height: 5’8.5
    Juan Carlos Burgos is from Tijuana, Mexcico, and is a former world title challenger. He was previously ranked as high as number two with the WBC at featherweight, and this is a step up in weight.
    Burgos turned pro in Mexico in 20047 two weeks before his 17th birthday. Boxing is in the blood as uncle Victor Burgos is a former light-flyweight world champion (he hasn't boxed since undergoing surgery following his loss to Vic Darchinyan in 2007).
    Juan Carlos Burgos rose rapidly after his pro debut, picking up regional WBC belts before taking on Hozumi Hasegawa in November 2010, losing a WBC featherweight title fight in Japan on points. He’s fought twice since then, defeating Frankie Archuleta in two rounds, and last time out beating Gilberto Sanchez Leon over 10 in July.

    Pacquiao vs Marquez III sees the World’s best pound for pound fighters return to Primetime this November. Ranked number 1in the pound for pound lists, Manny Pacquiao will be looking to end the controversy by convincingly dispatching long time rival Juan Manuel Marquez. After a controversial points decision and a draw both fighters have a point to prove. The previous battles have delivered knockdowns galore and this fight promises to be no different.

    Timothy Bradley steps back into the ring after ten months out and having been stripped of his WBC title as issues with his manager meant a fight with Amir Khan didn’t happen. Bradley will want to return to winning ways and prove he is still the number 1 in the Light Welterweight division. To do that he’ll need to defend his WBO title against former two division champion Joel Casamayor.

    Breidis Prescott also makes a quick return to British TV screens. Following his points loss to Paul McCloskey the only man to knock Amir Khan out aims to get back to winning ways as he challenges for the IBF Latino Light Welterweight crown. An undefeated Mike Alvarado stands in his way, with 41 KO’s from 58 fights between them this has all the makings of a fight of the night candidate.

    The card is completed by Luis Cruz vs Juan Burgos for the NABO Super Featherweight championship.

    So it’s titles fights all the way on November 12th, another must see night exclusive to Primetime!

    You can order the card for only £14.95 by calling 08712004444*, visiting www.primetimelive.co.uk or Virgin Media customers can purchase using the ‘On Demand’ menu. Customers on Sky must register the first time they use Primetime and once registered can purchase using the ‘box office’ menu.
     
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  7. SportsLeader

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  8. venusdiablo

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    Couldn't resist it:D
     
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  10. SportsLeader

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    :lol:

    This fight adds a LOT of weight to the card IMO, which was pretty bare without a good, competitive match-up.
     
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    How do you see this going Dyl? I can't profess to knowing an awful lot about 130lbs'ers, it rivals cruiserweight for division I watched the second least often after the limitless division. Mendez, Salgado, Uchiyama, Eloy Perez and Jorge Solis are the only ones I can claim to know a decent amount on, from the little I've watched of Cruz he appears to rely on having some room to utilise his skillset, doesn't seem to have much of an inside game. That said Burgos isn't exactly the most high-octane kind of pressuring guys, he generally moves his way in relatively slowly, so I'd imagine Cruz will have ample time to get some work done before JC closes the distance? I'm not sure if I'm honest, as I say I haven't got round to watching much of Luis yet.
     
  13. SportsLeader

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    I missed this post, sorry.

    I think Cruz will win. He's one of the prospects I'm investing a lot of faith in (along with Karim Mayfield and Brad Solomon), he's looked like a well rounded fighter from what I've seen of him, which isn't that much actually (a combined 20 rounds). You're right about him needing room to operate. He doesn't like being smothered or pressed with volume, Cruz is happiest when he's got the space to counter punch and time his bombs.

    My argument for Cruz winning is similar to the one I put forward for Mendez beating Salgado (and look how that turned out :yep.). Both Cruz and Mendez were given trouble by the pressure fighter in Honorio, except this time around, there pressing opponent isn't quite as aggresive as Honorio and is more calm and methodical. I reckon this should work to Cruz's advantage in the same way I expected it to work for Mendez, except I wasn't to know that Mendez would slug it out with Salgado and I consider Cruz to be smart enough not to try and match Burgos's agression. I reckon Burgos might trouble Cruz, but he's not dynamic enough to push him back to the degree it takes to beat him. Cruz should maintain range and stay comfortable to counter punch then move around, staying mobile enough to stop Burgos landing consistently, yet standing his ground when countering to punish Juan Carlos.

    So I see a Cruz UD. What say you?
     
  14. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    They're no Felix Diaz, Leo Santa Cruz, and Melian Melindo.:yep



    How did Mendez-Salgado turn out? There doesn't seem to be many who saw it that have actually put forward a decent account of what actually happened. From the little I gathered they both basically took turns round per round at imposing their styles until they both wore each other out and just started wailing away tired and aimlessly(as we saw in that brief video). I really have no idea about that though.

    I dunno about this though, Burgos looked a lot bigger against Hasegawa than he actually is IMO, or certainly a lot larger than he'll appear here. Hozumi was moving up from bantam after all, and JC's moving up in weight here, I'm not sure about Cruz's physicality, but unless he's seriously lacking in any kind of corporeal strength I can't see him being all that overwhelmed.

    If Cruz fights smart I'd probably go with him, neither man is exactly fleet of foot but I don't think Cruz necessarily needs to be in this match-up, whereas Burgos has less of a chance than he otherwise would have because he doesn't close space down quickly enough. He's mostly an aggressive box/puncher, and I can't forsee him outboxing Luis, so he'll require some new-found swarming abilities to get the job done if a 100% Cruz turns up.
     
  15. SportsLeader

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    All the good prospects already had bandwagoners :yep

    Agree on the points. Cruz is pretty big for a Super Feather, at least he looks it IMO. I don't reckon Burgos's physicality will trouble him. I think we generally agree that if Cruz fights smart he should win no problemo.