LUIS ORTIZ HAS NOT BEEN BANNED

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iDavid, Oct 6, 2017.


  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nail meet head.

    This whole BS is perpetrated by the WBC. VADA did what they were supposed, find the adverse results, report to only the WBC since they are the sanctioning body. The WBC actually already knows about Ortiz's medical records since he's licensed with them. What the WBC did create is this false positive by releasing the adverse finding and perpetrating this air of PED use.

    In a real adverse finding, the athlete in question has the legal right to dispute and his/her avenue of dispute is the B-sample test. None of this happened since the WBC already knew what the blood pressure meds are for. Instead, the WBC play dumb and blast this to the media. I tend to think the WBC is breaking some rules here disclosing medical records w/o authority given that we live in the age of HIPPA.

    End point, this is all a hoax.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do know what I’m talking about.

    If you’re taking a medication on a prescribed basis for a period of time and being tested, it would show up (if you’re not masking, and why would you if it’s legit?). So it showing up now and not before makes it pretty clear that he hasn’t been on this long term.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The WBC is giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    It is an adverse result. He didn’t disclose his “condition” or “medication” on VADA forms. The WBC doesn’t have every fighter’s medical history on file. That’s just silly.

    The WBC hasn’t said it’s not adverse. Ortiz’s own management put out a statement saying their guy is physically unfit to fight for the title. The WBC is sending an approved physician to examine him to determine if he does indeed have a major medical condition (in which case he’ll be DQ’d from fighting at all) or if he doesn’t, they’ll enforce the positive test result.

    Ortiz is a proven cheat. He hasn’t denied taking the banned substance; in fact, he’s admitted it.

    This is just a stalling tactic.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man, you're dumb as ****. If he was being tested it would always turn up. But you'd never know about it because it was cleared and none of your ****ing business. For ex. no one knew half of Team Sky Cycling was on triamcinolone because its none of your ****ing business because its private medical records. Its all wrapped up behind therapeutic use exemptions.

    This is the same with Ortiz. It's clear he's not banned, which means any word of this hitting the wire should have never made the news. But it did, meaning the WBC spoke when they shouldn't have.

    And what's this BS about his manager saying ****? His manager did not make a statement to any of the lies you are spouting. If you keep spreading these lies, you deserve a ban.
     
  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep it's not like none of us didn't call this either.
    Ortiz v Wilder made boxing sense to clear the road to AJ but for Wilder n Haymon it made zero sense as why would they take a 50/50 fight when they had the Buffet King ready n waiting,just another BS psy op cause correct me if I'm wrong but Stiverne tested pos too and yet he'll fight him lol
     
  6. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    No he didn't but it is totally obvious his team or the WBC are protecting him big time..
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So why wouldn’t Ortiz and his team scream bloody murder if they’d been testing positive and had an OK.

    You’re just making stuff up.
     
  8. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stated on a different thread that hell would freeze over before Deonkey Windmiller would fight Ortiz. Stiverne has no place being the WBC mandatory and this is nothing but WBC protectionism of Beoncey's title. Beoncey is beyond defending, turned down a career high payday against Whyte, calls out the blown up light heavy Bellew, criticises Tysons resume, beats up on the mentally ill and women, likes the odd bong and hot knife during down time and just generally spouts shite like some window licking ****** on social media.
    I find myself in a quandary. On the one hand I would love nothing more than to see AJ smash this fraud into obscurity, but then on the other hand, this absolute scrub doesn't deserve the payday so **** him anyway.
     
  9. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was chatting to a work colleague the other night who incidentally does white collar boxing and we both concluded that, not only would Bong not fight Ortiz but, that AJ would fight his stated mandatories of Pulev followed by Ortiz. Trust me when I say that Ortiz will miraculously become fight fit in early 2018 and will fight AJ followed by yet more of Beoncey chatting **** on social media justifying his current standing in the heavyweight division.