Luis Ortiz is a more dangerous and complete fighter than Joseph Parker. Let's be honest.

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  1. Son Peyote

    Son Peyote ★★★★★★★★ Full Member

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    Ortiz has better skills, technique, footwork and shot selection.

    Skill for skill, Ortiz is better than AJ too.

    AJ and Eddie craftfullly avoided fighting Ortiz, almost everyone did.

    Except Wilder, who even gave him a second opportunity after Ortiz failed for an alleged masking agent. And after Wilder KO'd Ortiz, they still want him to fight Whyte, lol what a joke.

    Eddie Hearn did hours of interviews with IFL saying that Joseph Parker was the non threatening, easiest fight out of all AJ's potential opponents. (Paraphrasing)

    Now that the fight has been signed, snake oil salesman Eddie can't stop saying how dangerous the Samoan warrior is. How this is a close fight and how """brave""" AJ is for taking it. No surprise that the UK casuals eat up anything Eddie chews up and spits into their mouths.

    The UK HW champ is scared stiff of the American HW Champion.

    AJ's too shook to even let Wilder in the ring lmao​
     
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  2. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Why have you written your post like an A La Carte menu?

    Too early to say. Let's see how he does on Sat night.
     
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  3. AJfan

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    A whole lot of truth right there. Unfortunately these AJ fans watch too much Sky Sports News BS to know facts when they see them.

    ... and I'll have the Salmon En Croute with a bottle of Sancerre.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Ortiz lost because he was too aged to go a hard 12 rounds, and a dazed Wilder got a helping hand in the 8th by a super nice NYSAC quack. Simples.
     
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  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I'll take the "AJ and Eddie craftfullly avoided fighting Ortiz, almost everyone did." but with the Mushroom soup instead of Asperge please...

    Anything to drink while you wait, sir?
     
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  6. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    100% absolutely. But Ortiz, Parker and AJ all get KO’d by Wilder.
     
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  7. _Frankly

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    Ortiz is so old he's appearing in the Cuban stage version of cocoon!
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    AJ has better combo`s than Ortiz and would have finished Wilder if he had him in trouble the way Ortiz did, his hand speed was awful, Parker`s hand speed and combo`s are far quicker than Ortiz`s hand speed plus he jabs much better.
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Since you mention the UK heavyweight champ I take it you think Lewis would have been scared of Wilder, Bowe ducked Lewis and he was an American champ so what are you talking about?
     
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  10. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was also an old man on blood pressure meds. Prime for Prime Ortiz is a lot better though.
     
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  11. James Smith

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    Ortiz did look soft and out of shape before the Wilder fight, let’s not forget he was fighting off his PED’s which he had looked good on years before. This was not the same Ortiz.

    Parker beats that Ortiz by wide decision.
     
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    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :risas3:
     
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  13. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz can definitely beat AJ, Parker
     
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  14. Son Peyote

    Son Peyote ★★★★★★★★ Full Member

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    It's standard procedure by the incompetent NYSAC.

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    Styles make fights. It's easier to look good against lesser opponents and not look as good against world tier competition. With the same skill-set. ​

    Ortiz has a more educated, varied and consistent jab than Parker. Idek how that's debateable.

    Ill give you hand speed but AJ and Parker lead with their head. I'll take slower, sound fundamentals over impulsive blitzes.

    This is asinine. I don't even understand your point. I'm commenting on the specifics of the current HW scene, not keeping tally all across HW boxing history. I'm sure you can find many examples of ducking throughout the decades. We should always call it out. But those situations have little to do with right now.

    AJ and Hearn are eating bread, waddling & quacking. Chewing it up and spitting it back into the mouths of UK casuals.

    I want the UK casuals to admit this. Instead of regurgitating Eddie's talking points.​
     
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  15. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I think it's more accurate to say that you're commenting on the specifics of the HW scene as it was 3 years ago. The version of Ortiz you're referencing doesn't stack up to the guy we've seen in his past few fights. Either age or loss of articifical enhancements have caught up with him. For all his admirable technique or southpaw awkwardness, he's a fighter in decline.
     
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