Luis Ortiz is a waste

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019.


Is Ortiz a waste?

  1. Yes

    23 vote(s)
    41.1%

  2. No

    33 vote(s)
    58.9%
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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    How many of those thousands had two chances at the same guy?

    then how many from that filtered pool had significantly more experience and skill?

    dont chat crap man,. Ortiz failed not because he is worse..
     
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
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  2. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd still beat Whyte.
     
    Inglis_1, Dec 12, 2019
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Perhaps Wilder should have given Whyte a shot as a voluntary defense for free seeing as he hands them out so willingly to fury and ortiz

    He would have been paid 15 million dollars

    Wilder is ******ed like that

    Ortiz came down to fight Dave Allen but not Whyte? Hahaha both are as dumb as you
     
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    He has barely beaten anyone.. give it a rest

    he is a failure like you
     
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Fun Fact: Fat Elvis Whyte lost more rounds to Derrick Chisora than Ortiz lost in his career.
     
    NoNeck, Dec 12, 2019
    NoNeck, Dec 12, 2019
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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    When you realise Ortiz has fought mostly bums its not hard to believe

    I wonder who has more supporters
     
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
    Aydamn, Dec 12, 2019
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  7. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    I suppose it is up to how he uses his tank. Against Parker he was clearly slowing down mid rounds due to constant pressure and he was completely done by the 11 and 12th.
    He did conserve better against Chisora, but he did rest on some rounds, the commentators even stated that. He let Chisora outwork himself and stayed on the outside and using his jab and counters. even with conserving better though, you can see that he moves slower/heavier and his defense goes down (hands dropping lower/slower footwork) late rounds because he throws a lot of useless punches to keep range I suppose. Commentators even stated that he didn't go in for an attack even when Chisora was stumbling to reserve the tank.
    Ill give the Rivas fight, I felt movement wise Rivas had to work way harder since he was chasing all night and had to find his range. But Whyte's stamina wasn't bad considering he was heavier.

    His stamina may look decent against fighters outside of the 10 or 15. But against Top 10's he's going to have to work like he did against Parker. I can't give him anything over a mediocre to decent stamina atm because he just slows down a fair bit. After his last fight also, well out of shape and barely moved, after it looked like he was in the gym 24/7 on his instagram. Stamina is only as good as your last fight unfortunately.
     
    blackfella96, Dec 12, 2019
    blackfella96, Dec 12, 2019
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  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    It comes down to .. who has he beat? He's freaking 40+ years old and his best win is a borderline top 20 guy.
     
    madballster, Dec 12, 2019
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  9. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    better than Whyte thats for sure!!! He would slap him around like a $2 hooker.
     
    bruce_keyes, Dec 12, 2019
    bruce_keyes, Dec 12, 2019
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  10. millslane

    millslane New Member Full Member

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    He's not a waste he survived communism and earned for treatment for his daughter. He would Whyte Joshua ,BigBabyMiller, basically everyone except Wilder.
     
    millslane, Dec 12, 2019
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  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte ducked Ortiz, not the other way around. Just like he ducked Usyk.
     
    theanatolian, Dec 12, 2019
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Top 5, dumbass.
     
    NoNeck, Dec 12, 2019
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  13. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    HBO did a great job putting over fighters
     
    TEAM_LOMA, Dec 12, 2019
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  14. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cute.
     
    Inglis_1, Dec 12, 2019
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  15. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another not so subtle thread to talk about Whyte.

    Why do you feed this guy lads?
     
    Southpawology, Dec 12, 2019
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