Luis Ortiz is a waste

I’d love to see Ortiz vs. Ruiz

 

Definitely. Far more interesting than anything Whyte has to offer.

 

For me, he's a wasted talent, as his career could've been a lot better. Financially and Legacy wise.
I'm aware he wasn't a fighter people willingly took on, I'm just saying what could've been.

Lets say he fought Povetkin, Pulev and Parker before 2017, that's 3 good wins and fights he'd have been at least 50-50 in, if not favourite.

Then, if he beat Pulev, he'd have been AJs Mando for both belts, meaning that's a huge fight for him.

Then, after he lost, he could've kept on paying the WBC sanctioning fees, and got the Wilder fight, earlier too, as he popped dirty for the original fight in late 2017. So he gets another title shot, and losses.
He's offered the Whyte fight, which he could've took, and bang another huge payday and big win (if he won). Assuming he did, he gets the Wilder rematch, makes another couple million, and retires a rich old old man.

Litterally, at least half of this could've happened, but it didn't. So yeah, he is a "what could've been" but he still accomplished a lot more than most.

And even in an actual world scenario he could've had the Whyte and AJ fights and made Millions.

 

Ortiz is incredibly overrated and his only notable win is against Jennings 5 years ago. Without a doubt Ortiz has the weakest resume out of anyone in the top 10 for either Boxrec or Ring magazine.

 

I think he either was a mandatory for Joshua or was on the verge of being one. I don’t remember the situation other than that the Ustinov eliminator didn’t happen and Hearn did a mediocre job representing Ortiz.

 

It's like being in school in here with the name calling at times aye.. Lol

But the fat elvis whyte made me chuckle tbf

 

Whyte turned down Pulev of all people hahaha for an IBF mandatory spot. Says it all about that ducker really.

Hughie is a real man, he stepped up to go to Bulgaria unlike Whyte and Miller.

 

yeah...that sounds good and all I think Ortiz-Fury-Ortiz is harder than what you’ve listed above.

 

Should have turned over to the pro circuit before his 40th birthday. Should have insisted his team push for the bigger fights when LL and both Klits were fighting. Turned down the Joshua fight (WTAF!), let Wilder off the hook in the first fight, got cocky and let Wilder set him up with like three jabs before being popped with the right.

Oh and he got popped for PED's twice, wasting yet more time well into his 40's. Best performances against Jennings and Scuba Scott even though he had a decent amateur career and plenty of momentum and opportunity at various points in his career.

 

please stop...it’s weird and uncomfortable, you sound like a mongoloid.

 

I wouldn't say a waste. He looked to have the skills to do more as a pro. But it looks like doing 'ok' and getting KO'd by DW is his biggest feat. But this is the HW division of today. Virtually ALL HW's have terrible/thin resumes now.