Luis Ortiz is out

Nobody has revealed what they were offered. And the fight isn't happening for any of them except Hunter.

 

Does anyone want to fight Joshua? Low ball offer excuse is getting very tired.

 

Why do all of your posts on the subject of Joshua-Ortiz go back to Wilder?

Wilder isn't fighting. Try spending one day not talking about Wilder, or blaming Wilder, or insulting Wilder.

Joshua-Ortiz has nothing to do with Wilder. Wilder is fighting Breazeale. He's nowhere near what's going on here.

This is just Eddie Hearn not being ready for prime time and not wanting to step up and put Whyte or Usyk in the MSG fight.

Hearn clearly can't think on his feet. Hearn wasn't prepared.

Wilder has nothing to do with Hearn not being prepared.

 

You either didn't read my post before I put it in or chose not to read it but I said Pulev had legit reasons not to take a fight right now.

 

Oh dear. The embarrassment continues.

Wilder has pushed a narrative that against Joshua normal rules of negotiation don't apply. That has influenced other fighters IMO but you can't seem to handle that.

Ortiz would of been a mutual opponent so the two purses would of relevant but enough of that, lets talk about Ortiz by his own admission turning down the fight because for some reason you really don't want to accept that.

 

Ok. So what does this have to do with the lowball narrative we're having pushed at the minute? Do these guys want - prob - career high payday and a shot at 3 unified titles at a sold out MSG or not?

Ortiz doesn't.

 

They've had mutual opponents before. How many MILLIONS MORE did Molina and Breazeale and Gavern get fighting Joshua? Einstein.

I can't do it today. Bye.

 

Usyk lol. Usyk is not fighting AJ in his first HW fight.

Not forgetting Usyk already has a fight and the AJ fight isn't necessary right now. Usyk can take that fight if he chooses when his mandatory or later down the line.

Dillian Whyte already bottled the AJ fight at Wembley. The idea that putting that fight on in NYC when the fight is far far bigger in London would be absolutely ridiculous. That's just leaving money on the table.

 

whyte turning down the april fight v joshua is why the joshua v miller fight got made for june

now miller is out of what was meant to be a showcase fight for joshua in america they are left scrambling for opponents
miller was the second choice opponent
now they are looking for there third choice opponent and they are looking for an american based oppoenent as the fight is in america

we all know this which is why the choice of opposition is limited to only so many fighters

ruiz/
ortiz/
hunter/
kownacki/
bryan

seems about the only choice

 

Well Gavern was before Joshua became a PPV fighter/champion so we can look at purses then but not really much in the pot from that period of his or Wilder's career.

Molina and Breazeale? Do you think they made/will make more fighting Wilder? A man I thought you didn't think was relevant in this thread?

You clearly don't want to talk about Ortiz here for love nor money. The fact he's rejected ths fight is obviously too much for you.

Now if you can't take your drubbing for being a logic deficient fan boy today then that's YOUR problem.

 

Yep and Kownacki and Ortiz both look to have punked out with the remaining options looking less than stellar.

 

Ortiz looked like dog **** last fight against Hammer so we know he is at about Lucas Browne levels of shot.

Of course Hearn wanted Ortiz and I bet they gave him a pretty good offer too but Ortiz has only ever challenged himself once and that hurt him a bit so he doesn't want to do that again..

AJ would give him the mother of all beat downs and most guys don't want that slow repetitive "please ko me" beat down AJ gives so this is why most are coming up with these stupid excuses..

Not enough time.
Not enough money..
Want to fight Wilder..

Ortiz has ran from AJ for years, was mandatory and ran to the WBC to avoid fighting AJ then so there is no way on earth he will be fighting him now..

 

Ortiz has apparently been promised Wilder.

Stiverne got another crack so it makes sense

The guys title reign is shambolic