Luis Ortiz pops dirty! You can forget about Wilder/Ortiz!

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's how it goes:

    Ortiz (or Povetkin or whoever) to the press: "I will knock Wilder out!!! I fear no man!!!"

    Ortiz (or POvetkin or whoever) to their trainer: "Go load up the truck with mass quantities of every PED you can get your hands on, this mutherf***er can punch. No way I'm fighting him clean."

    It's as simple as this: guys like Ortiz and PEDvetkin are NOT world class contenders WITHOUT their PEDs. It's the only thing that allows them to compete at an elite level.

    But VADA has improved its testing to the point that it's much harder for cheats to get away with it. That's why Ortiz was popped for MASKING agents ... to cover up the REAL s*it he was taking to try to compete at the world class level.

    Simple.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I cannot stand drug cheats.

    It's just a matter of time for AJ, too, and he probably knows it.
     
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    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    Hmm... I was curious about Kong's absence from the press conference. Everything else aside, these are some interesting allegations that were just brought forth.
     
  5. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    but Wilder is clean right?

    he smokes weed

    had it in his vehicle

    how come vada didnt say

    anything about that?

    hmm
     
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  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I couldn't watch that. Shut it off.
    Please bring me back to the days of Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson.
    Not this emo cry baby.
    Embarrassing
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was someone else in the vehicle. He's legally responsible because it's his car, but apparently he hasn't tested positive for weed. Probably belonged to the other person.

    VADA is a drug testing agency. It takes blood or urine and analyzes it and reports on what is and isn't found. Nothing illegal has been found and Wilder has been tested numerous times.

    (And marijuana isn't exactly performance enhancing, is it?)

    You think if he was on roids he wouldn't have blown up to like 240 pounds, his legs wouldn't be thicker? His frame could handle it but he hasn't packed on the weight.

    Let me ask you: Do you think AJ is on PEDs?
     
  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Luis probably only used 300 ml of IV fluids. He needed to up his game to 750 ml.
     
  9. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Wilder holds the WBC title, they happen to mandate VADA testing Which the other titles don’t... and wilders opponents get busted.

    You can question wilders recorded all you want and I do to BUT you can’t blame him for everything... VADA are popping these guys not wilder.
     
  10. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    its on the banned substance list

    all i know is he avoids top fighters like the plague

    hes been a champ for like 10 years already and

    has yet to face a top fighter or mandatory other

    than Burger King stiverne

    same old swan song
     
  11. tekkennlee

    tekkennlee Member Full Member

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    All Ortiz had to do is go to his Doctor, tell him his Meds are banned and his Doctor would of changed them to some other Med's, that work and are not banned . Very simple and if nothing else works no other types of Med's, let them the Roid and boxing testing agencies no you have some Medical conditions and you need your Meds because of your life threatning Medical conditions. End of story everything would of been fine he should no this he is a grown as Man and has been boxing for years.

    The Man doesn't know this he is a grown man in a Boxing sport and is given a list of Banned Suff
    Hell i can get a list online from.
    World Anti-Doping Code Prohibited List
    https://www.drugs.com/wada/

    You mean to tell me, Ortiz is in a multy Million dollar fight that he didn't check or ask for the list of what was banned? and then check with his Doctor and testing agencies about his Medical conditions and treatment he just didn't know LOL. OH i didn't know what was banned----- please .

    Now all of the sudden hes playing stupid and shows a proscription and says see it's legal. When he knows their are banned proscribed Med's on the list and he didn't check or his team didn't check to see if the Med's he was on were one of the banned proscribed Med's and see what he could do about it or try, to fix this problem. Did he even try? Did he go to his Doctor testîng agencies did he get Legal advice Legal action did he tell them I take them to save my life. What can we do. He did nothing, never went public to ESPN Fox Sports he did nothing.

    All he did was showed a proscribed Medication thats it and then say see im sick .
    OK MR Ortiz you gonna show us but your not gonna check that list of banned stuff. When you were told some Med's are banned you didn't tell the testing agencies. Your team trainers

    A---- Mr Ortiz your streanth trainers who are Professionals at training athletes and they don't know they have a list of what is banned by the testing agencies and your team your trainer boxing coach didn't ask what you are putting in your body, when you have a multy Million dollar fight coming up and they are testing, im not buying it for a dollar.

    It looks like a Drug Duck

    But hes from a different country he didn't know. He knew about that stuff in the Olympics didn't he and his team knew and i bet they told him don't take anything with out telling us so we can check to see if it's not on the list. Then we can take steps if you have to take it to save your life Mr Ortiz. That's what people do who are clean they take steps to let them testing agencies know im clean but i have to take this to save my life then they go to the Boxing Commission and ask what can we do about this Medication problem . He should of did this long before the fight was even made period.

    So you can't blame Mr Wilder, for the incompetence of a grown man, no you can't. Mr Ortiz is only to blame.

    So we have it kids the fight is off,

    Why don't Joshua and MR Wilder both have tune-up fights then fight each other. Putting in a rematch clause that they have 3 fights one in America the other in England, then the last one in a natural site lets say south Africa. that would work. Then we fans and the world, get what we want. England gets to see it live Americans get to see it live in Vegas or maybe Dallas. and Africans get to see it live like they saw the Ali fight.
     
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  12. bandeedo

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    Kids stay in school, you dont wanna end up sounding like that.
     
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  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And he's never tested positive for a banned substance. It's not his fault that Povetkin is roided to the gills or that Ortiz suddenly decided he needed PED "blood pressure medicine" as soon as he signed to fight Wilder.

    Answer my question: Do you believe AJ has used PEDs?
     
  14. tekkennlee

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    Poor Ortiz didn't get the List. Hey Mr Ortiz give me your Email. I will send you that secret list of Banned Substance that Wilder has told VADA to keep from you.
    VADA Prohibited Substance List http://vada-testing.org/

    This document contains the primary Official Prohibited List(Substances and Methods) of the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

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  15. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    who cares?

    when he does fight aj

    which he wont

    why?

    because he'll be chirping

    again saying aj is on peds

    ha

    tell the cartoon carácter to

    retire already and let real men

    fight for that bogus title