Luis Ortiz should retire, he's becoming slow and his old age has weakened his punch resistance

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Nov 24, 2019.


Is it time for Luis Ortiz to retire?

Poll closed Mar 2, 2020.

  1. Yes, he's fading due to advanced age

    14 vote(s)
    58.3%

  2. No, he's still very durable and strong despite his age

    10 vote(s)
    41.7%
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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    And his reflexes are not so good now. Time for the old warrior to retire.

    I don't want to see the old man get hurt again.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Nov 24, 2019
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    He landed more on Wilder than fury did
     
    Richmondpete, Nov 24, 2019
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Wasn't an especially hard punch? Says who? The fact remains he landed more than fury did
     
    Richmondpete, Nov 24, 2019
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I don't know about critisizing the man on his punch resistance from the KO Wilder put on him. I don't think too many heavyweights in the history could have taken that shot and not be affected.
     
    Braindamage, Nov 24, 2019
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  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ''The fact remains he landed more than fury did''

    Wilder's face was obviously marked up and swollen after the Fury fight. Wilder also got clearly rocked/hurt in the last round. Ortiz landed very little clean to the head in the second fight.
     
    MorvidusStyle, Nov 24, 2019
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He could still eke out a living beating gatekeepers and fringe contenders, but...

    In the hurt business, especially at heavyweight, if you're not going to be getting maxed-out paydays (and he blew any chance of that in the future last night with his lapse in concentration, ruining what could have been a legacy-altering upset if he just cloned his efforts in the first six rounds over the second half and maintained that same carefulness) - why bother? Too much risk for too little reward, at his age.
     
    IntentionalButt, Nov 24, 2019
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Boxing is a young man's sport, it's for people under 40.

    I'm saying that as someone who is just a few months away from my own 40th birthday.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Nov 24, 2019
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You age a month a day when you get to Ortiz's age. Imagine that was a prime or close to prime Ortiz in there against Bootleg Dorticos and he was never anything special even back in that age. Or what about if he was still on his PEDs? It would be carnage city.
     
    Serge, Nov 24, 2019
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  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yup. Ortiz was always an overrated geriatric mirage, but his punch resistance now seems to have abandoned him. That old mandible is getting shaky!
     
    Zakman, Nov 24, 2019
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Not sure we can blame age for his loss but defo is past prime, even if we assume his age is 40.
     
    On The Money, Nov 24, 2019
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  11. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pack it in. call it a day. don't risk your health. the head is not a good place to be absorbing damage. if I had the money he has now I would be gone.
     
    don owens, Nov 24, 2019
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I'd like to see him mop the floor with Dillianabol.
     
    NoNeck, Nov 24, 2019
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  13. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    I wonder if losing all that weight affected his punch resistance
     
    Alphafighter, Nov 24, 2019
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  14. ThePainMan

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    George Foreman, Oliver McCall, David Tua, George Chuvalo. Evander Holyfield, Ike Ibeabuchi ect would of walked though anything Wilder could dish out. Ortiz can't take a punch.
     
    ThePainMan, Nov 24, 2019
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  15. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OK, so how is he supposed to earn a living now? he's only 40... he's got 25 more years til his retirement pension kicks in. Are you gonna offer him a job??
     
    bruce_keyes, Nov 24, 2019
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