luis ortiz v david haye right now ?

Great fight and whoever came out on top would had just achieved their greatest win by far.

Ikd, I'd need this fight to be signed to invest my brain power to tell peoplease who to take for the win.

Currently leaning towards Haye right now, but that's assuming he could fight up to 8 rounds with his power and speed still engaged.

Too hard to predict, will he have even worse stamina because of the 15 lbs of muscle or did he actually gain much needed insight while having surgeries. Does he know how to fight at a pace he's capable of, too many unknowns.

Saying that, I'd take Haye by shocking upset tko victory

 

Its funny staminakills........because I don't see Haye winning as an upset in anyway.

I think Ortiz is good, is he world class though?

Haye is younger, quicker.....and I think is all round a better and more aggressive boxer...

For me Haye TKO inside 6.

 

Ortiz...

 

ortiz by destruction.

 

Have we seen David in with any Southpaws at HW? Hmm...

*goes to check*

 

Harrison was a Southpaw. Seem to remember Haye switching to southpaw himself during fights very early in his heavyweight career.

 

Yes, not an upset to me, but most are holding Hayes inactivity against him while I think it was the best thing he could've done at that point.

Now he's a legit hw, was simply too small 4,5 years ago, IMHO. Haye has legit scary power. And he wouldn't be pushed around like a 210 lb Haye would be against the top 5 hw..
Ortiz is a legitimate beast, madly skilled for one who looks like he carries too much weight.

Hayes TKO by 8

 

I'd favour Ortiz. Haye hasn't beaten anyone even half decent since his return and I doubt he has the movement anymore to keep Ortiz off of him for long.

Haye, despite being passed his best, still hits like a truck, he definitely has a punchers chance. I think he can hurt Ortiz if he can land which I suspect he is still quick enough to do. But longer the fight goes the more I favour Ortiz to break him down and stop him.

 

I'm starting to agree and disagree at the exact same time. I'm lost, Haye could be a little smaller AJ who I think will prove to be the best h2h ever, over taking LL

 

Good post !

 

Haye will avoid Ortiz.

 

Yeah of course he will cause it could ruin his payday against AJ?

 

Ortiz puts Haye to sleep. Haye is taken out of the 02 on a stretcher.