I'd pick most elite cruiserweights to beat Ortiz. Usyk, Rocky, Walcott, Holyfield, Gassiev. Who thinks Haye would do him?
I’m sure he got knocked out by the one guy he fought who was bigger than Ortiz because he was physically hungry.
Definitely not, Walcott was looking great and Layne was suffering. That fight was a pretty big upset, from memory.
That’s the thing about Jersey Joe. Wildly inconsistent. On film he can be a thing of beauty to watch but you examine his record closely and there are a lot of curious losses. I don’t think the man had a prime. You can’t call a two-fight stretch when he’s near 40 a prime. And the Layne loss came right in the middle of the stretch where he was probably fighting his best … and it’s not a ‘well he got caught by a shot’ kind of loss either — I don’t think anyone has argued that it was a bad decision or even could have gone either way. The best Jersey Joe might show up or the guy who lost head-scratchers might. Some of it is styles make fights and some of it is the guy never had a trajectory. He could look great against a respected opponent in March and turn up three months later and get beaten by an average opponent with no real reason why it played out that way.
No, he had a legit run before that. It had been about decade since Wlad lost four rounds in a fight though. I could say that Walcott’s claim to fame is being knocked cold.
I think his prime was 47-52. In that time: Probably unlucky to go 0-2 with Joe Louis. 2-2 with the mighty Ezzard Charles 0-1 with Rocky Marciano but boxed beautifully. The above helps to peg him as being just below the true elite IMO. Equal with Charles, competitive Louis and Rocky but not able to get the W. Other fights in his prime: Layne Joey Maxim x2 Elmar Ray Olle Tandberg Harold Johnson Omelio Agramonte Johnny Skor Hein Ten Hoff For 8-1. Despite the 8-1, which reads like dominance, Walcott did have some touch-and-go type nights in one or two of these wins, Maxim always troubled him for example, but overall his record in what I consider his prime was excellent against good fighters, a little unlucky against true heavyweight immortals and split honours with the other ATG he faced. That's pretty great, really.
Wow you can spell better than me. Not hard to do lol. But you never answered my question from a couple yrs ago. How much ring time you got under your belt Mr Who thinks hes better than everyone else?
Well,,,at his best, which is what we're talking about, I'd pick Walcott to box Ortiz's jaws to a wide UD. I think Walcott would be the favorite but not overwhelming by any means.