Luis Ortiz vs Joe Joyce

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Babality, Jan 21, 2021.

Who wins?

  1. Ortiz KO

    13 vote(s)
    18.1%
  2. Ortiz Dec

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. Joyce KO

    39 vote(s)
    54.2%
  4. Joyce Dec

    12 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Member Full Member

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    After round 4 or so Ortiz realizes he isn't fighting a 45 year old that will lay down after the first punch he connects, Joyce wears him down
     
  2. Tankatron

    Tankatron Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Triangle theories ain't worth the second hand toilet paper they should be written on with a pointy turd stick..... Boxing is a lot more nuanced than that.
     
  3. Fuzzykat

    Fuzzykat Member Full Member

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    I think Ortiz still has something left. He's a veteran that you can't count out, very much like Povetkin when he fought Whyte. At this moment, I'd pick Ortiz over Joyce.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joyce KO. Overwhelms the old man inside 5
     
  5. infini IV

    infini IV Active Member Full Member

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    never seen anything even remotely special about Joyce to suggest he could beat Ortiz
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Agreed
     
  7. Boomstick

    Boomstick Active Member Full Member

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    At this stage, I’d have to pick Joyce. He’s patient and he’d need to be with Ortiz. Ortiz is always dangerous, but Joyce I think would be able to wear Ortiz out and outpoint him or stop him late. A few years ago, it might have been a different story.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Now im talking to you in the thread buddy
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

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    Thats nice
     
  10. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    yeah, I mean he’s got a pretty solid chin, so I’m sure he’ll see the distance relatively frequently going forward I guess.
     
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  11. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Not quite
     
  12. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz is probably at a point where he knows he will never be at or near the top. Hard to imagine him being motivated enough to win.
    Slow Joyce wins. Maybe a some sort of stoppage.
     
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kindly eff off then....
     
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Damn youre so late, as usual lancy poo
     
  15. Finkel

    Finkel Member Full Member

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    Nice points, a couple of things I'd like to point out though, whilst Jennings might have been closer to his physical prime when Ortiz beat him. He was still coming off a loss. Whereas he was coming off arguably one of his best wins when Joyce fought him. (Edit: actually my memory was wrong here, he was coming off a loss to Rivas when he fought Joyce, but Dimitrenko was still arguably his best win)

    When you factor in experience alongside athleticism it's difficult to say which version of Jennings was better.

    I quite enjoyed watching back Jennings fights, and he obviously had his highest ranking leading up to his loss against Klitchko, but as good as a performance as that was, we should remember that Jennings never actually beat anyone inside the top 20.

    So even if we can say Ortiz's victory looked better. One, it's arguable whether he fought the best version of Jennings and two, whether that even means all that much beyond defeating a gate-keeper to the top 20. And that's not even considering this all happened over 5 years ago now.
     
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