Luis Ortiz vs Oscar Rivas ... who takes it?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Aydamn, Nov 30, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Rivas

    37 vote(s)
    51.4%

  2. Ortiz

    35 vote(s)
    48.6%
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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Rivas is a decorated amateur, people on here act like he is a brute with no skill.

    Nah... he was skilled and talented way before he got the Mr Olympia muscles. He has won plenty of rounds in his career... and tbh it makes Whyte's win over him even more impressive as he has 7 amateur fights lmao

    Crazy skill gaps that Whyte overcomes.

    Even Parker has 15 years more boxing experience than Whyte.... Whyte is an ABSOLUTE legend.
     
    Aydamn, Dec 4, 2019
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I see a post that concedes that Whyte has a poor skill set. That’s part of the reason why Ortiz is better than either him or Rivas.
     
    NoNeck, Dec 4, 2019
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Better in terms of skill? Sure... sorry did you hear me say Whyte is the most skilled out here?

    You'll never find a post where I said that...

    But he has beaten more skilled... and that's the reason he would Whoop Ortiz, the way he did Rivas and Parker... but they are more durable than Ortiz

    So Ortiz wouldnt last the distance.

    Don't take my word for it... go call Rivas and Parker and ask them how hard Whyte hits/hit them... I know their answer
     
    Aydamn, Dec 4, 2019
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what I'm wondering,,what will Ortiz have left? will he come into the ring next time in fighting trim. Or become the gatekeeper guys fight to compare themselves with what Wilder did to Ortiz.
     
    Reinhardt, Dec 4, 2019
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  5. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Whyte is great for the sport, bit like Justin Galin is great for athletics. The facts are facts man, if you are too emotionally invested in this for whatever reason to not be able too accept the situation then more fool you.

    If you have to restore to attempting to insult people on the internet if they have a differing view to you, your gonna end up attempting to insult a lot of people.

    Yes you have posted a video when some people have posted messages of support for Whyte but if you visit ANY independent boxing forum you will see he is universally considered to be a drugs cheat for multiple failed tests. No matter how many long winded, delude rants on the internet you have will not change this

    Ask yourself, how does a supposed PPV fighter who won his last fight in the most controversial circumstances go from Headlining PPV events to being on someone's undercard, fighting a long over the hill drug cheat in a match that everyone knows the outcome before the gloves are laced, in the middle of the desert, in a country with no legitimate boxing sanctioning body?

    all I'm asking is for you to apply some common sense here but I think im wasting my breath
     
    Southpawology, Dec 5, 2019
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  6. Simon Head

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    Damn, honestly the only thing I know about Rivas is he fought Whyte and gave a good account of himself.

    Will have to read more in to him, because according to the poll, I’m missing something.
     
    Simon Head, Dec 5, 2019
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You are definitely wasting your breath because I am positive that you are trolling

    This Saudi card is massive it has taken up a hell of a lot of resources and it makes sense for Whyte to hop on and join it

    145 people from sky sports flew over.. thats just Sky... its the biggest even ever put on by Saudi and Matchroom

    Whyte had short notice to prep only 3 weeks so naturally he is going to be an undercard on this even.

    Your post aint gonna age well because Whyte will go back to headlining PPVs in time and he will be cleared and i promise to rub that in your face when that time comes if you are still here
     
    Aydamn, Dec 5, 2019
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Oh and I am well aware of what other forums spew about Whyte, boxing forums tend to hate viciously on every fighter... just look around here

    But what counts at the end of the day? The 90 per cent that attend Whytes events and pay for his tickets or bitter haters on boxing forums?

    They guy has made it.. as a frikkin contender as well not even a champ

    and he has the respect of his proffesiobal boxing peers

    So whats more important? The opinion wannabe twats on a forum or actual professional fighters who risk their lives for a living?

    You sound like. 10 year old child who is the local bully and king of his backyard completely detached for real life and the big leagues
     
    Aydamn, Dec 5, 2019
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  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Another reason why you are so disgusting is that boxers like whyte risk their lives day in day out working their arse of in the gym

    You wouldnt last a day in his world I know this for a fact

    As no professional boxer would be berrating whyte and putting him down
     
    Aydamn, Dec 5, 2019
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  10. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, boxers risk their lives everyday, everyday. Where they expect fight on a level playing field

    What makes this whole situation disgusting, is that in a contact sport, one of the most dangerous, Whyte has now been caught twice using drugs to enhance his performance, making him hit harder than he should and last longer than he should

    He’s putting ppls lives at risk for his own personal gain

    That is disgusting, even more disgusting than his apologists
     
    Southpawology, Dec 5, 2019
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    So the first was a preworkout and he took his two year ban even thought it was accidental.. i mean who would risk a preworkout for two year ban?

    and the second was alleged

    You went on and on about NUMEROUS NUMEROUS NUMEROUS

    WHen in fact its just one MINOR offense and another alleged

    Drama queen thats why I dont respect you
     
    Aydamn, Dec 5, 2019
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  12. flem1

    flem1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz by late TKO or UD.

    Rivas is tough guy and can fight but not good enough to beat Ortiz.
     
    flem1, Dec 5, 2019
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Would be a great logical fight. I want to see both in matches with top 15-type guys straight away next. But at the moment I'll definitely favor Ortiz to win a competitive decision.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Dec 5, 2019
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