Luis Ortiz... Who has he beat really???

Benevidez is easy money against Smith. Ydksab.

BJ Sinus hasn’t fought a live body in years. Ortiz hasn’t tested positive for Ped’s since the early 2010s.

Whyte has beaten a single top ten contender and it was via headbutt. Roided tub O’ lard.

AJ quit last June. His ass is third.

 

So your point of view is - (I'm gonna bullet point because there is a lot to straighten out here)...

- "Ortiz the only one who cold beat Wilder".......... Erm, well yeah when Wilder ducks everyone else, I agree.
- " Ortiz is somewhere between Wilder and Jennings".......... So like top 300 then?
- "Ortiz is high risk low reward".......... To who??????? Hammer????
- "Just like his trainer said, why don't you take the fight".................Why didn't Ortiz take the 7m for AJ?????? Maybe it was AJ too easy to beat like Ruiz proved??????

I'm gonna play devils advocate here, even though I don't believe in it and say in a terrible accent

"Ya'll know Ortiz wins now ain't no credibubble, he a drug cheet ass mofo and Hernz (i meant haymonz) payz for his successessess, g'damn b-sample avoiding mofo"

 

AJ notable wins: Wlad, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Povetkin.

Whytes notable wins: Parker, Rivas amd Chisora.

Fury notable wins: Wlad and Chisora.

Wilder notable wins: Ortiz

See the difference in standard of quality of resumes? In particular between AJ and Wilder as AJ has beaten 5 better fighter than Wilder any fighter that Wilder has beaten in his career.

 

How dare you say Ortiz is a notable win :-( smh

Who has he beat?

;-)

read this thread before posting
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/luis-ortiz-who-has-he-beat-really.633272/

 

I would say Ortiz is par with Rivas and Chisora but quite way behind the rest of the names mentioned.

 

There is a difference. Wilder is the only one to remain undefeated against three top 5 fighters over four fights. And that, my friend, is why he is numero uno.

 

May I question your reasoning kind sir?

 

Two drug cheats and Brezeale?

Wow, he must be good.... bet he got all the US behind him!

 

Your so called top fighters are quentionable:

Ortiz - his best career win is against Jennings over 4 years ago. Has questions over his real age and has blood pressure issues.

Fury - retired after got he got caught on PEDs and coke and went on a eating binge and was inactive for years. Comes back and hasnt beaten a top 40 fighter in 4 years and badly struggled against Wallin.

 

It’s more difficult to beat a drug cheat. Breazeale was fringe top ten, not top 5.

 

LMFAO

 

Ortiz stopped a top five contender, unlike AJ and Dillianabol.
Fury was LINEAL.

 

Euro level wins or above for these 3:

Chisora - Takam (the most impressive win out of the 3 fighters) Spzilka, Malik and Price.

Ortiz - Jennings, Hammer and Thompson.

Rivas - Jennings.

 

Entertain us........ are you calling Jennings or Hammer the monster?

 

Fury lost the lineal when he retired. If you dont lose it, does it mean LL comes out retirement he becomes lineal champ again?

If you believe so much in lineal and Ring magazine then surely going on both of these logics considering AJ was number 1 when lost to Ruiz and then regained it back then AJ should be number 1 again. Either way backing both methods is contradictory.