Lupe Pintor vs Rafael Marquez

This would have been a great bantamweight fight. Lupe had a great lead left hook to the body and would use that to open up combination punches upstairs. This could spell trouble for Marquez because as Vasquez showed Marquez can be vulernable to a great hook. Could his chin hold up against Pintor who had very good power at 118? I think so. Marquez is a strong fighter with big heart at bantamweight.

Marquez would have the height and reach advantage and would be able to use the jab to setup right hands that could have found their mark. I think Marquez had a little more mustard on his shots than Pintor and remember he is no slouch when going to the body which he would need to do. Pintor is the more durable fighter and I don't think Marquez would KO Pintor by headhunting.

Result

Marquez UD but he might be dropped in this fight and it would be a very close contest. This would have been a good one.

 

He is a fine boxer/puncher who has beaten 3 great fighters. 2 of them at Pintors best weight. Last year Marquez was very close to being recognized as one of the 5 greatest fighters in the world again.

When was the last time he was seriously hurt at 118? Pintor had great power but that power is difficult to carry at the lower weights. I would say Vazquez hit harder than Pintor did.

Many bantamweights have trouble moving up in weight and taking the title. Marquez did it but lost it in the next fight with Vazquez. Pintor failed to do it against Gomez. I think we just have to look at their body of work at 118.

 

Yeah that happens when you beat multiple great fighters.

I wouldn't have suggested such a matchup if I didn't think Marquez had a great chance to win this fight with both at their best. He is a live underdog and this might be a 50/50 fight. He has the size, power, better jab, and a better right hand than Pintor did.

 

Austin was a great fighter, not Pintor great but he was still world class.

Johnson filled out nicely as a Bantamweight. Marquez looks bigger than Vazquez too at first glance but you know that is not the case. He is a tall, lanky man.

Vazquez isn't Morales or Gomez and he might be overrated slightly but he is the best around today. You can't take that away from him.

I am sorry if you can't see how he was p4p material. He lined them all up at 118 and beat them convincingly. That is all you can do. His resmue looks very similar to Pintors and he did what Pintor couldn't do. Win the championship at Superbantamweight.

 

I stand corrected I forgot about Meza who by your own admission was no Vazquez. I was thinking Pintor only had 1 more title fight and got beat by the asian that lost to Fenech I can't think of his name offhand it has been a while.

I will give you that Zarate was boss for sure. That was a dead even fight that could have gone either way. Same with Davilla another great fight that was tough to score.

Hoon Lee a better win than Mabuza? I don't think so. Hoon Lee was better at 122

Pintor also struggled with Owen and Rengifo for a while until he turned the fight around with his power and finally got the kayo.

The more I think about it the more Marquez compares very well to Pintor.

I know Marquez is being compared to a champion that fought in the 70's and 80's. That alone creates a bias against him by some boxing historians but checking out film, their performances, and resmue these are evenly matched ATG fighters.

No way does Marquez give Gomez a fight like Pintor did though.