LW Tourney (No Leonard, Duran or Armstrong)

I've left out the big 3, so no Armstrong, Leonard or Duran.
Then the generally perceived winner of this will go in a round robin with them in a separate thread.

The Contestants

Alexis Arguello (Mancini fight)
Manny Pacquiao (Diaz fight)
Julio Cesar Chavez (Rosario fight)
Floyd Mayweather Jr (2nd Castillo fight)
Packey McFarland (Welsh fight)
Tony Canzoneri (Chocolate fight)
Ike Williams (2nd Montgomery fight)
Joe Gans (1st Nelson fight)
Terry McGovern (Gans fight)
Pernell Whitaker (2nd Ramirez fight)
Edwin Rosario (1st Ramirez fight)
Vasyl Lomachenko (Crolla fight)
Bob Montgomery (1st Williams fight)
Ray Mancini (Arguello fight)
Battling Nelson (2nd Gans fight)
Carlos Ortiz (Ramos fight)

Rules
The rules are the same as the other one.
Old school ref, grappling, pulling and thumbing allowed
Near dead to be stopped
Neutral Corner after a KD
18.5*18.5 ring
15 rounds

The fights go

Arguello vs Ortiz (1)
Pacquiao vs Nelson (2)
Chavez vs Mancini (3)
Mayweather vs Montgomery (4)
McFarland vs Lomachenko (5)
Rosario vs Canzoneri (6)
Williams vs Whitaker (7)
McGovern vs Gans (8)

Then the winners of each fight face eachother

1 vs 8 (1)
2 vs 7 (2)
3 vs 6 (3)
4 vs 5 (4)

Then the winners of them do the same

1 vs 4
2 vs 3

Then who ever you've got left in the final


Who you got winning?

 

Tbh I was torn between him and Camacho but I rank the Gans win over any Camacho has.
And I didn't know he was a natural BW. And I don't think it was a fix. So he's the one I went with

 

Round 1

Arguello vs Ortiz
Holy **** what a great fight.
I think Ortiz would taste some hellfire right hands but manage to keep the fight how he likes it and box beautifully. He'd manage to land jabs and move around Arguello's footwork. I think he'd win the less entertaining rounds based on skill. However Arguello's counterpunching would win him rounds and keep it relatively close, but still a clear win for Ortiz.

Ortiz UD15


Pacquiao vs Nelson
Pacquiao wins on landing more punches, he'd land his left over and over again. His right hand would be pulling Nelson's hands down and going to the body whilst landing loads of jabs. He's just too ****ing fast for Nelson imo. But Nelson granite chin would keep him there all night long. Pacquiao's Stamina is good enough imo to go 15 and even if it isn't his chins good enough to last 3 rounds against a badly beaten Nelson.

Pacquiao UD15


Chavez vs Mancini
A brutal war that doesn't last long, Chavez beats Mancini down whilst Mancini fights back bravely. He had much heart but in this fight, heart would get Ugly and have him badly beaten black and blue after a good few rounds of exchanges he'd have taken to much damage to have a chance of winning. I think he'd have been combo punched out of the ring

Chavez TKO7


Mayweather vs Montgomery

Mayweather is too slick for the Bobcat imo, I think this would start to resemble Gatti vs Mayweather in the end, although it would last longer. Pretty Boy Floyd was a very fast and explosive fighter, at his best he'd stick it on Montgomery imo and move away from him and his pressure.

Mayweather TKO8


McFarland vs Lomachenko
This is a purists wet dream, there would be so mush adjustments and subtle footwork with feints it would be beautiful.
The infighter of old would have some serious help from the referee and length of the bout, I think he'd win rounds inside based on him being able to actually time Lomachenko's punches and block them as well, but I think Lomachenko's aggressive fighting style wins it him imo, he'd step out and cover McFarland and land good punches, scoring punches. He'd be taking more leather than he's used to as well.
I think McFarland would do well but would lose a split decision on activity.

Lomachenko SD15


Rosario vs Canzoneri
Tony outboxes Edwin pretty easily imo, he doesn't bring anything to the table a prime Canzoneri couldn't deal with. Not to mention he could bang himself. Rosario had a very good chin but it would only take a matter of time imo, I like Canzoneri to put on a clinic, then a beatdown and then a brutal KO.

Canzoneri KO14


Williams vs Whitaker
Whitaker would take the lead imo on speed and Defence and would take the early to mid rounds quite easily. He'd be slipping Ike's jab and flicking his solid left in his face whilst popping his own jab from the offset. He'd eventually start to get tagged with some dynamite rights and is probably dropped. I think Ike's power would catch up to Pea, especially to the body, and would slow him down enough for Ike to finish him off. I'd take a Whitaker UD over 12.

Williams TKO14


McGovern vs Gans
Ha know what happened there lol

McGovern KO2

 

Round 2

Manuel Ortiz vs Terry McGovern
Imo Terry's out of his depth here. I like Ortiz to nullify his offence and counter, cutting up his face and outboxing him. Adding insult to injury on the smaller man
I think it may get stopped on cuts but that's an intangible I can't predict so I'll say he lasts the distance in a one sided affair

Ortiz UD15


Ike Williams vs Manny Pacquiao
This would be a brawl, but with Pacquiao darting in and exploding whilst being open to a right hand I think Ike catches him and finishes him brutally. Pacquiao would land some heavy leather of his own and might knock Ike down but Ike would still get him imo. Toxic style for Pacquiao.

Ike Williams KO8


Canzoneri vs Chavez
Absolutely brutal fight but I think Chavez's walk forward aggression takes it for him, he'd take Canzoneri's power imo and cut the ring to beat Tony up along the ropes, I'd say that Canzoneri survives any beatdown given to him but to come back and win? Against Chavez? I think Not.

Chavez UD15


Lomachenko vs Mayweather
Mayweather lands lots of everything on Loma and takes the rounds, Loma would adjust, then PBF would readjust but in the end Mayweather not taking as many punches as Vasyl was would win him the fight. No stoppage here tho.

Mayweather UD15

 

Round 3

Ortiz vs Williams
The battle of the jabs would cause Ortiz to build up points, but it gives Williams a chance to time it and land his right hand. He'd constantly be doing this going past 5 rounds imo and whilst a tactical mastermind like Ortiz would readjust he'd still being caught clean, I like Williams to keep landing till he gets the stoppage.

Williams TKO12

Chavez vs Mayweather
Chavez's walk forward pressure combined with his power and chin has him stopping Mayweather, who was too agressive for his own good at LW. He'd get timed with one of his crosses, caught, hurt and then bulled back to the ropes where Chavez would hurt him up stairs and down stairs. Rinse and Repeat. Until he either stops him or takes a UD. But over 15 I'd take a late stoppage for Chavez

Chavez TKO14

 

Final

Chavez vs William's

I like Chavez to take Williams punches and throw back with somewhat equal force and effect. Whilst this fight would be in the centre of the ring I like Ike to win the rounds with his 1-2 but Chavez coming forward would force Ike back to the ropes where Chavez would be landing some heavy leather and smothering Ike's own offence. Ike's power and skill would have Chavez hurt multiple times and probably down as well, he'd try and follow up but would be met with a clinch, infighting and more resilience than he'd have ever encountered before.
I like Chavez to land some catastrophic body shots throughout the fight that slow Ike down long enough to be caught with brutal punches later on in the bout and would follow up with fight ending Intentions. Ike would fight back and make some incredible exchanges that are incredibly entertaining but ultimately have one winner.

The winner of the LW ATG fight and the inductee to the next Tourney.

Chavez TKO11