Lyell could face Abraham or Pavlik? just in, Lyell's mother says no to Pavlik fight

because he beat a good club fighter in dubby. gimme a break!

 

atsch:-(

 

Oh god no. No, no, no, no, no.

 

I'll tell you this much, from where I see it. I don't have anything against Lyell, and I have no problem supporting a guy whose been around the block getting a payday after what's, by far, his best win. But, outside of Vincent Gottschalk and Bob Arum, John Duddy wasn't viewed as being worthy of a Pavlik fight; as good as Lyell may have been that night, that performance still just puts him a shade above Duddy and he lost pretty convincingly to a prospect (a good one, admittedly) in Martirosyan the fight before that.

I'll give him props for going about his career the hard way, though. Always good to see a fighter like that pull off an upset over the unbeaten guys.

 

Well i'm pretty sure they have trainined together (lyell and Pavlik) a lot and lyell knows that he would get his ass handed 2 him. I really doubt jack would let them fight atleast at this point in lyell's career. I mean he just had the biggest win of his lifetime why set him up 4 failure right away? Let him have his chance 2 fight top 10 guys and make a lil money 1st.

 

This kid is 6-5 in his last 11 fights..... how does that warrent a title shot???

And minus Duddy his last five opponents he beat had a combined record of 34-55-6.

Lyell is terrible and Duddy isnt much better and no way should beating Duddy earn him a title shot....

 

Yea i just been busier than usual. If they are just using him for that hopes of a big money fight thats sad and esp 4 kelly its a lose-lose for him if he wins ok great he gets no credit and he just beat another bum(press says) if he looses he got exposed. It would be a bad call by jack.

I heard that billy has not always been with jack he was kind of a roamer in and out of differnt gyms not really taking it serious. So maybe thats why he doesnt reflect jacks style....yet???

 

I read the opposite about Billy and Jack. They've been together since Billy was a kid.

Billy says he does not want the fight. He said he thinks he stand a good chance "against either of the Germans," but does not fancy a fight with Kelly.

Personally I think Pat Nelson, Lyell's manager, is just using Pavlik's name, and the Y-town connection, to coax a little more money out of Sauerland and Universum; both have contacted Nelson.

 

Neither Sturm nor Abraham will fight him. Universum and Sauerland have a lot of other middleweights: Golovkin, Gevor, ... I doubt they'll match Zbik with him (or any other live body) though.

He may (I haven't seen any of his fights) be much better than Sato but he won't get title shot against Sturm or Abraham because he has a lot of defeats which makes it impossible to hype him as a "dangerous" opponent. Most of Erdei's/Sturm's weak opponents had one loss or were undefeated before the fight.