Lyle vs The Champs

I would of liked to see how he would of fared against Patterson and Johanson . I like his chances against Braddock , Baer, Carnera and Sharkey.

 

Of the last 50 years HW lineal champions that Lyle probably beats are

Leon Spinks
(maybe) Michael Spinks though Spinks could outbox him
(maybe) Buster Douglas
(most likely) Michael Moorer
Shannon Briggs
(most likely) Hasim Rahman

 

Lyle and Willard would have been interesting one.

 

Lyle, Quarry, Foster. 3 tremendous HW contender types born in the wrong era.

There are champions throughout history who'd fall to either of these men on the right night.

They'd likely beat Walcott, Braddock and Briggs. Although to be fair they are the 3 weakest lineal champs in history.

 

Some eras are tough and some are weak.

Take the 50's for example. I will never say a bad word about Jersey and he resides snugly in my top 100 HW list but he was basically a journeyman who landed a lucky punch in his 5th world title fight. If he can be champ, anyone can.

 

Post Tyson Douglas maybe,...no chance against that monster that showed up on 2/11/90 in Tokyo. All the rest I'd bet on Lyle. He'd kill Briggs, Leon and Moorer.

 

Floyd Patterson has to be high on the suspect list of a lineal champion who could be beaten by anyone you want to mention.

 

You get to troll all the time and no one ever tells you off!

*angrily crosses arms and looks the other way*

 

Nah. A journeyman until his 44 comeback. It was a whole new career.

Walcott established himself as a genuine contender from 44 to 47. Built a 18-3 record in 3 years while past the age of 30, 14 opponents regarded as contenders, avenged all 3 close losses. He was clearly THE leading heavyweight contender when he challenged Joe Louis.

Louis losses were competitive enough to see him and Charles the logical opponents to determine a new lineage.

I'm the 50s, his only losses were to Charles, Marciano, and Layne, while knocking out 3 contenders and a genuine journeyman, and embarresed a prospect in his own backyard.

Despite, the score cards, the second Charles decision was not popular. And thanks to more articles and footage being more readily available we know Walcott was controlling the third fight before this...lucky punch.

Walcott was 6-4 in the 50s, 8 genuine contenders, one fringe prospect, and one of the tougher journeyman of his time.

This is no lucky journeyman resume or just a top 100 guy. 31 fights in 9 years after 30, 22 contenders, beat everyman he fought bar three..two of which was all time great champions, the other a leading contender while possibly hurt, and who fell off before the loss could be avenged meaningfully.

Certainly erratic but who wouldn't be at his age, fighting that frequently all over the world with few if any safe cream puff fights.

 

I think they fair the same or worse for all eras that followed. Lyle could certainly have picked up one of the newly minted baubles but he would be ranked about the same in the division's entirety.

 

This is reasonable.

 

Yeah Quarry would benefit more from going backwards in time rather than forward I think.

 

i get the feeling and it isn't based on anything that I've been told or read, that Jersey Joe had the handcuffs on in a lot of his early fights.
Foster, Quarry and Lyle fought in my favourite Heavyweight era but i think peak Walcott beats them all with Quarry doing the best

 

As I said, a top 100 HW, would he go 3-0 first time of asking vs Quarry, Lyle and Foster? I doubt it.