Márquez vs select PAC gauntlet

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JMM vs select Pacquiao gauntlet

  1. Lose same, win some mainly be decision

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  2. Lose some, win some mainly by KO

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  3. Win all mainly by decision

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  4. Win all mainly by KO

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  1. Bofo24

    Bofo24 New Member Full Member

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    All same weigh-in limits. Same: dates, venues, judges, referees.
    Kindly predict for every number below. Same ODLH.

    1. Érik Morales 1
    2. Óscar Larios
    3. David Díaz
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Ricky Hatton
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Joshua Clottey
    8. Antonio Margarito
    9. Shane Mosley
    10. Brandon Ríos
    11. Chris Algieri
    12. Jessie Vargas
    13. Jeff Horn
    14. Lucas Matthysse
    15. Adrien Broner
    16. Keith Thurman
    Just assume he would still be as healthy as last time he fought for later listed opponents.
    Previously, there's MP vs select JMM gauntlet.
     
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  2. Dannymita

    Dannymita Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Érik Morales 1... Can't call.. Close either way
    2. Óscar Larios-Marquez ko
    3. David Diaz-marquez ko
    4. Oscar De La Hoya-de la hoya points
    5. Ricky Hatton-marquez ko
    6. Miguel Cotto- cotto points
    7. Joshua Clottey-marquez points
    8. Antonio Margarito- probably margarito points /stoppage
    9. Shane Mosley- mosley points/stoppage
    10. Brandon Ríos-marquez ko
    11. Chris Algieri-marquez points
    12. Jessie Vargas marquez points
    13. Jeff Horn-marquez ko
    14. Lucas Matthysse-marquez points
    15. Adrien Broner-marquez points
    16. Keith Thurman-thurman points
    These are snap decisions off top of my head.. I may change some of these results after more thought...

    Most of the fights marquez would lose here are more to being massively undersized.. Manny was more suited to carrying his frame and physical gifts higher up the scales... Marquez was noticeably slower at welter.. And old by then

    Horn fight and margarito.. He would just be too small.. However with his sharp counter punching I can see him beating horn by ko.. But not margarito.... If they were all same size.. I'd pick him over most of them... Good gauntlet
     
  3. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    1. Érik Morales 1 - EM UD
    2. Óscar Larios- JMM KO
    3. David Díaz- JMM KO
    4. Oscar De La Hoya- DLH UD
    5. Ricky Hatton- JMM KO
    6. Miguel Cotto- Cotto UD
    7. Joshua Clottey- JMM UD
    8. Antonio Margarito- Margo late KO
    9. Shane Mosley- SSM UD
    10. Brandon Ríos- JMM KO
    11. Chris Algieri- JMM UD
    12. Jessie Vargas- JMM UD
    13. Jeff Horn- JMM UD
    14. Lucas Matthysse- JMM KO
    15. Adrien Broner- JMM UD
    16. Keith Thurman- One time UD
     
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Érik Morales 1/ Marquez win
    2. Óscar Larios/ Marquez win
    3. David Díaz/ Marquez win
    4. Oscar De La Hoya/ Marquez loss
    5. Ricky Hatton/ Marquez win
    6. Miguel Cotto/ Marquez loss
    7. Joshua Clottey/ Marquez win
    8. Antonio Margarito/ Marquez loss
    9. Shane Mosley/ Marquez win
    10. Brandon Ríos/ Marquez win
    11. Chris Algieri/ Marquez win
    12. Jessie Vargas/ Marquez win
    13. Jeff Horn/ Marquez loss
    14. Lucas Matthysse/ Marquez win
    15. Adrien Broner/ Marquez win
    16. Keith Thurman/ Marquez loss
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    JMM isn't beating Clottey. He's a counter puncher.
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Lets just say he wins some and loses some.
     
  7. JOKER

    JOKER You Get What You #$@%ing Deserve!!! Full Member

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    • Érik Morales 1 — Morales Decision
    • Óscar Larios — JMM KO
    • David Díaz — JMM KO
    • Oscar De La Hoya — ODLH Decision
    • Ricky Hatton — JMM KO
    • Miguel Cotto — Cotto Decision
    • Joshua Clottey — Clottey Decision
    • Antonio Margarito — Margarito KO
    • Shane Mosley — Mosley Decision
    • Brandon Ríos — JMM Decision
    • Chris Algieri — Algieri Decision
    • Jessie Vargas — JMM Decision
    • Jeff Horn — Horn Decision
    • Lucas Matthysse — JMM KO
    • Adrien Broner — JMM Decision
    • Keith Thurman — Thurman Decision
     
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  8. JOKER

    JOKER You Get What You #$@%ing Deserve!!! Full Member

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    Plus Clottey is massive, built like a tank, and has good pop.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this version of Marquez the same juiced one that planted Pacmen like a tomato plant? If so he'd win quite a few
     
  10. Bofo24

    Bofo24 New Member Full Member

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    If indeed he used them, then only the years he did use them which would match the gauntlet's own years, and the next fights he could possibly use them again. Therefore no retcons, especially since he did not have Memo Heredia before.

    JMM is so far the obvious rival closest to Pac's size, perhaps someone who could replicate his feats.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Erik Morales said about that fight,,the Mexican pharmacy outperformed the Philippino phatmacy
     
  12. Dannymita

    Dannymita Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But clottey wasn't really anything spectacular
     
  13. Bofo24

    Bofo24 New Member Full Member

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    Perhaps JMM could outwork him then, or Clottey's shell is too difficult to crack. I see the Ghanaian shotgun jabs scoring points with a red JMM face, or JMM's counters landing on the tight guard with a clean Clottey face, both for a split decision.

    I slightly lean to a Clottey win if JMM would not be able to score at least one KD just like Cotto did which he probably would not be able to do, since Cotto is a strong man himself after all.
     
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  14. Dannymita

    Dannymita Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And I always find it amazing the fight where marquez was juiced up to the gills, superpowered superhuman was the fight he looked the absolute worst in... Keep trying boys lol
     
  15. sasto

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    He retired well before some of these, I have to imagine he retired for a reason.

    I love how they did that rivalry over 10 years.