M1 Global: Vadim Finkelstein offers Cain Velasquez / UFC a deal they cant refuse

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by monaroCountry, Nov 22, 2011.


  1. Vadim offers a deal that Cain Velasquez OR the UFC cant refuse, a fight between Cain (who is no longer under the Championships Clause) and the GOAT Fedor.

    This fight will be in Russia with M1 handling the event and costs, the event will definitely be shown in Prime time with viewer numbers that would make UFC's 5.7 million viewers look pedestrian, it will have state backing, will have ticket prices that would make even Dana's head spin, and im sure that the stadium would be packed to the rafters especially with state backing. They could even hold it in Luzhniki Stadium which holds 78,000.

    Russia is a closed book as far as UFC goes, theyve been trying to get into the country and grow without success, their brand and promotion means very little as far as MMA is concerned in Russia and that region.

    This is a shot across the bow, either for Zuffa to shut up about trying to show the best fights that fans want to see (this is their chance) or for Cain V to take this fight against the GOAT with or without Zuffa (afterall now that hes lost he is no longer under the Championship Clause).

     
  2. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Except they prolly will refuse it.
     
  3. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    Problem is no one cares to see Fedor fight UFC fighter's anymore, Cain should be fighting top 10 fighter's which Fedor is not. You're kidding yourself if you think this event could touch the numbers UFC on FOX did.
     
  4. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    this isnt even interesting to me let alone dana white..
     

  5. The Fedor v Rogers already did in Russia, 5.7 million is easily achievable in Russia.

    I know for sure that Dana and Zuffa is too scared to take this gamble. For them its not just their fighter loosing to another fighter, for them its their promotion loosing to another promotion. Theyve built up a really complex wall where they could say that their fighter is the best of the best, without having any of their fighter fight outside the promotion. The last time they took this gamble, they lost (Pride v. UFC).

    I think this offer by Vadim is really directed at Cain himself. This about why Vadim didnt call out JDS or Lesnar, its because JDS is now under the Championship Clause and Lesnar is still UFC's biggest cash cow. Cain Valasquez is neither and so is more likely open to leaving UFC if given enough $$$. M1 has previously offered Brock a multi million dollar contract and has said that they could match ANY OFFERS UFC made to Fedor. With a billionaire owner and State backing I dont doubt for one instance that M1-Global could easily offer multi million one fight deals to Cain. We all know that Cain only received a measly $100,000 against JDS and a $200k (plus $100k win bonus) against Brock. Cain only received $100k for 2011. If I was Cain id take a million or multi million dollar offer by M1-Global, after all fighters only have a limited shelf life.

    Smart move by Vadim actually, turning the tables using an old UFC ploy. Zuffa really has three choices 1) they accept the deal 2) they loose Cain, or 3) they bump up Cain's payment just to keep him (Zuffa wont admit or disclose payment). All three would be great for M1.
     
  6. the beaver

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    Fedor should try and fight a few guys a level below Cain before taking him on. Going the distance with Monson doesn't mean he is back.
     
  7. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would still watch this fight only cuz im a Fedor fan
     
  8. Bigg Panch

    Bigg Panch The Dopest Full Member

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    Is M1 gonna interview Cains mom too?
     
  9. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I think M1 is looking for 1 more big payday, they need to bleed Fedor one last time because I'm sure Finkel wasn't expecting these recent loses and the loss of potential revenue from him. They couldn't of made much money from his last fight or they would continue to feed him cans and hasbeens and have easy paychecks.
     
  10. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Monaro, you need to sit back and have a look at your posts, it really isn't healthy to be
    so obsessed with one man. **** like this and 'M-1 fired Henderson' doesnt fool anyone, it just makes you look like a pathetic fanboy. Now I know it's worthless me even posting this, because you're just going to call me a 'zombie' and fail to actually address anything I say, but if you look through my post history you'll see that I rate Fedor as the greatest fighter so far in the history of the sport. However his time at the top of the sport is done now and a win over Jeff Monson, who is also done, does not in anyway prove that he is still the number one heavyweight in the world. Velasquez won't fight Fedor in M1, we all know he won't yet no one who can think rationally will see it as a duck, because we know that it is a pointless fight at this point. Fedor suffered three bad defeats on the trot, one against a guy JDS beat the **** out of in a round, one that Cormier sparked out with the same type of shot Fedor was hitting him with and one against (an admittedly brilliant) middle/light-heavyweight. Just because he beat Monson does now somehow make him a worthy opponent again. So if Cain beats Fedor he gets no praise, if he gets beaten he'll get slated and no matter what the result of the fight is, he won't have any lucrative options afterwards as M-1 have no other big name fighters for him to face. The shot about money isn't as clear cut as you make it as Cain stands to make more in the long run on the UFC. Even you're not dumb enough to believe he only received 100 grand for the JDS fight, everyone knows the UFC don't declare all the fighters earnings.

    Face it man, Fedor is the greatest for his 2002-2006 run, since then he has gotten in tow with crooks who have dampened his career by having him take easy fights for years which cost him when he stepped back up in competition and now he has physically deteriorated and will not reach the top of the sport again. Just leave it alone man, remember Fedor for the time when he actually was the best and stop holding on to stupid fantasies about him. There are other great fighters out there for you to follow as well.
     
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  12. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    Haha m1 global needs to stop running their mouth and should've sold their name to the UFC when they had the chance.
     
  13. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fedor is one of my favorite fighter of all time (boxing&MMA) but this Finklestein guy is a slimy ****er.

    oh and just for the record even today's Fedor would probably tko Cain
     

  14. A level below Cain? wow wow wow.

    Cain is the inexperienced one here lol :patsch

    Oh how Zuffa has brainwashed people.

    Pretty much any Fedor fight in Russia is a big payday. They could have any HW fight Fedor and it would still be huge, even Monson still packed the stadium.

    From all reports the Fedor v Monson was a huge success, the 22k tickets were snapped up like crazy (why do you think Vadim was talking about a 40+k stadium for the next event?), influential/rich/popular Russian celebrities watched the fight, was shown on the biggest network TV prime time, and numbers should easily exceed the UFC on Fox 5.7 million.

    Fedor's next opponent would be another blockbuster. Ishii is a Japanese icon and hero. Im sure that this NYE event with Ishii and Fedor will have closer to 40k watching the fight and probably in the 20 plus million TV viewers.


    Lol you didnt get point of that thread did you? But I do agree with you, Henderson getting fired by M1 is as pathetic as Fedor getting fired by the UFC/Strikeforce.

    Who said Fedor is still number 1? In saying that though, Fedor is more worthy of a higher ranking than Cain Velasquez.

    A one off multi million payment and opportunities to fight throughout Europe and Aisa is a better deal than $100k per year. We all know that Cain's time at the top is over and be wont be getting that $100k (plus $200k win bonus) he got from the Brock fight. At best UFC will continue to offer Cain $100k per fight which is about 1 or 2 time a year at most.

    Only a select few fighters receive that under the table PPV cut, Brock, GSP, and AS are probably it. Everyone else gets the fight money, win money, and all FOTN and KO/sub bonuses, and these are disclosed.


    Pretty much the same with Cain nowdays really, apparently UFC have moved on to their next best and greatest in JDS. If Cain doesnt take this offer he would end up like AA, Tim S, CroCop, and Nog. Used, abused and thrown out with yesterdays proverbial by the UFC.
     
  15. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really sure how this fight would go... Prime Fedor easily KOs him.. Now I'd say 50/50. Funny thing is after all the recent Cain hype (LOL), and Fedor admittedly (even me being a huge fan of him) being pretty shot, I doubt many people will argue with me about it.