No matter who you think won that fight, some of the comments left here tonight have been repugnant Get a ****ing grip. The guys easily one of the best fighters in the world. He now has a serious rival at the weight. What more could you ask for? A decision for Shogun? Well of course, but thats hardly Machidas fault Dont degrade the MMA forum into what became of the General in the days following the Froch Dirrell fight War Machida!!!! :smoke
Nobody can focus on the fact that Machida took every shot cleanly and he didn't seem bothered at all, or that he was hitting Rua and counter punching. They're both class a, fighters. But apparently, Machida is the next Hatton and he's exposed for his weaknesses and he's going to be outclassed by the next nobody champion everyone believes in.
Took every shot cleanly? Just how ignorant are you? Look everywhere online and see how many people scored it for Machida.
He showed great defense in the first three rounds. Excellent sub/td defense. Impressive chin and durability in taking all those strafing kicks to the middle. Picture perfect head kicks. Equally effective counter and lead punching. HOWEVER The last two rounds, where he shut the **** down offensively, are inexcusable for a CHAMPION defending his CHAMPIONSHIP. I can't believe his corner told him to play the fifth safe and not strike too much - I was 100% sure he needed a KO to win at that point. Absolutely terrible advice (hate to say it - but that is, unless they "knew" something we didn't in advance...) and he was a fool to take it. Well maybe not in hindsight, with things panning out as they did. But for him to assume he had a clean sweep on the first three rounds and could take the last two off is not only an inaccurate view of how the early part of the fight went, IMO - it's a really shitty championship mentality. I was a pretty big Lyoto fan up until tonight. Up until the 4th round, actually.
Dirrell was robbed...and so was Shogun (only the shogun robbery was even more obvious if that's possible...)... Machida is great , i don't hate the guy , far from it. But it's still a shame that Shogun was robbed tonight.
I honestly think too many people are influenced by Rogan's love of Shogun and outward bias. I almost was, it was hard not to with Rogan constantly commenting on Shogun's leg kicks but wouldn't say fuk all about Machida's punches to Shoguns face 90% of the time. Fight could've gone either way and Machida made a decent account of himself and so did Shogun. I think everyone was shocked Shogun was even in the fight and that can lead to thinking he was winning it. Maybe he was but it was close.
yup shogun should be the new champion. He came back 100% tonight. He was sharp against a great defensive fighter. Machida has never been hit that much in any of his fight. Prior to the shogun fight he never loss a round. Against shogun he loss 4 rounds but was given a gift from the crooked judges:verysad Mauricio Shogun Rua UFC light heavyweight champion
Exactly. The whole ****ing fight was Rogan "NICE SHOT BY RUA" discounting Machida throwing back, it's not as if he had no answer for it. And then people have the ****ing dare to be all "SUCH A ROBBERY, MORE OF A ROBBERY THAN DIRRELL FIGHT. Please, shut the **** up, you're an idiot. You can't even respect the fight, I haven't heard one person say "good fight but I think this happened", they just shout at the top of lung "ROBBERY". Sickening man, the crowd is what is killing this sport, not the promoters.
I know i wasn't. I cn't ****ing stand their comments so i always watch on mute (or just listen to music)... It was a great fight though. But what a ****ing bs decision.
I was aware of Rogan's disproportionate commentating and also appreciative of Machida's defense and counterpunching, and rooting hard for Lyoto. He still lost four rounds. Three of them virtually undebatable.
I watched this fight on a huge screen in a noisy bar. I didnt hear what Rogan was saying but man people are making comments *******izing this great technical fight by screaming robbery. Even my brother in law who was a huge Shogun fan was saying that man maybe rds 4 and 5 werent enough. It was Shoguns greatest performance tactically and technically and Machida gassed worse than BJ Penn, take that for what its worth
Yup. Bottom line is if you wanna reward the guy with the most leg kicks as the winner, fine but I don't agree. I prefer the guy doing the most work upstairs to the head which Machida clearly did. I had a hard time watching that fight without falling for Rogan's comments. I'd honestly need to watch it with the volume down to really see clearly but I tell you 90% of the exchanges I'd see Machida scoring upstairs and Shogun a kick to the calves or thigh but there goes Rogan disregarding Machida's shots and commenting on Shoguns kicks. It was starting to fuk with my head even. But my buddy was saying the same **** so I knew I wasn't seeing things. lol
