Make Fury V Joyce next

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  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's Wilder claim to fame?

    - hlHis best win? Beating a guy who was dropped multiple times by Charles Martin.

    - struggling and losing multiple rounds against a guy who Chisora didn't have to break a sweat against and KOed in the 2nd round.

    - Ducking AJ and Whytebhis whole career.

    Whyte on the other hand has beaten the likes of Povetkin, Parker and Rivas.
     
  2. Pierre_Coetzer

    Pierre_Coetzer Member Full Member

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    Whyte and Chisora are probably the two boxers that have shown little fear and taken on their respective challenges as best they can..... With varying degree of success...
     
  3. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury won't fight someone with less followers than 500K
     
  4. Pierre_Coetzer

    Pierre_Coetzer Member Full Member

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    At this stage he would do well to have 500k followers
     
  5. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is not going to fight anyone worth a damn.
    He is done, he is exposed. He is a fraud. Only dumbasses believe a word he says.

    This explains it all:
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  6. Goran_

    Goran_ Active Member Full Member

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    Nah hes gunna retire
     
  7. Goran_

    Goran_ Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder would spark Whyte & Chisora beat him first time round.. not even convinced hed beat Wallin
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on what? Whye has beaten better opponents. Wilder beat win nearly lost to Charles Martin and was dropped multiple times.

    Wilder ducked Whyte his number 1 ranked opponent for years for a reason.
     
  9. Redbeard7

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    Joshua's best win is a life and death at home as a big favourite against a 41 year old who was 17 months inactive, schooled in his previous fight and KO'd by the likes of Ross Puritty, if you want to play that game.

    Didn't Whyte struggle with and lose multiple rounds against a 40 year old who'd already lost to Szpilka? Yes he did.

    Nobody with a brain takes the ducking claims seriously anymore. Wilder's got more heart in his pinkie finger than Joshua and Whyte have put together. He'd never quit, let alone against a pudding like Ruiz Jr. Even 43 year old Ortiz got off the canvas multiple times to go 12 with the blob and win a majority of the rounds on the combined scorecards.

    Povetkin 2 was medically unfit to fight, Whyte gets zero credit. Dave Allen was a much tougher and more competitive opponent. It was embarrassing that KO'ing jellyfish Povetkin took Whyte 4 rounds. Wow he's gone life and death and got A-side decisions against Chisora, Parker and Franklin, while getting KO'd by Joshua, last legs Povetkin and Fury (who he couldn't lay a meaningful glove on), amazing.

    Wilder did significantly better against

    Helenius than Chisora and Whyte

    Breazeale than Joshua and Wallin post-Wilder

    Fury than Wlad

    Stiverne than Joyce post-Wilder 2

    Arreola than Vitali

    Duhaupas and Washington than Miller post-Wilder

    Scott than Chisora and Ortiz post-Wilder

    Firtha than Povetkin and Fury

    Liakhovich, Szpilka and Ortiz than Jennings

    Manswell than Chagaev

    Morales, Liakhovich, Arreola and Ortiz than Ruiz post-Wilder
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He has the balls to fight anyone because he hasn't fought anybody. Every fighter coming up has the balls to fight anyone at first (except Wilder).
     
  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua best win is against ATG that was a former undisputed champion just in last fight. AJ did what Fury couldn't, didn't just hurt him, drop him multiple times but stopped him.

    Fact is Wilder beat win is against Ortiz who is on par with Takam in terms of standard. Takam is the 7th best opponent AJ has beaten ( Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker Ruiz and Pulev). Ortiz got dropped multiple times and nearly lost against AJ 8th best opponent he has beaten in Charles Martin.

    Whytes wins over Parker and Povetkin are better than any win Wilder has. Rivas and Chisora are on par with Wilder beat win in Rivas and Chisora.

    Chisora did much better than Spzilka than Wilder did

    AJ did much better against Molina than Wilder did.

    Povetkin did much better against Duahupas than Wilder did.
     
  12. Redbeard7

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    "Joshua best win is against..."

    It's all spin Mitch. Ortiz got dropped by Martin (who he came back to KO in 6) at an age that Wlad was retired, whereas Wlad got stopped by Puritty, Sanders and Brewster in his 20's (all of them stopped him faster than Joshua did). And Fury was the only fighter to outpoint Wlad over 12 in his 69 fight career, breaking the all time 12 round defensive record in all weights against a champion (and P4P No.2). Ortiz was 38 years old, 30-0 and 5th ranked by Ring when Wilder beat him and although Joshua's Wlad win was a high level win, Joshua went on to quit against Andy Ruiz and lose twice to Usyk, so it's swings and roundabouts.

    Imagine if Ortiz had lost to Gregory Tony, as Takam did. You wouldn't rate Ortiz in the top 20. Jennings proved against Wlad and Joyce that he was better than Takam and Ortiz outboxed him and crushed Ring's 6th ranked heavyweight in 7, while Takam pulled out of the Ortiz fight to fight Duhaupas (which also didn't happen). Wlad took less damage and won a greater proportion of the rounds but didn't stop Jennings, while Joyce struggled boxing Jennings to a greater degree and also went 12.

    "Whytes wins over Parker and Povetkin"

    Whyte's win over prime Dave Allen (who Ortiz did a far better job on) is better than his win over medically unfit Povetkin. Parker is trash, no ambition at all and hasn't stopped any of his 11 best opponents, including journeymen like Cojanu and Fa.

    "Chisora did much better than Spzilka than Wilder did"

    You provide 3 in return for my 17, that's pretty pathetic Mitch. Kownacki also did better against a post-Wilder obliteration Szpilka, and that Pole whose fighting Babic for the bridgerweight title even more so.

    Not to omit that Wilder did far better than Chisora against Fury in 2 of 3 fights and even Chisora did a lot better than Whyte, who was not all that much better against Fury than Tom Schwarz.
     
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  13. TheWizard

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    Lol. Whyte was one of Fury's easiest ever fights.
     
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  14. Goran_

    Goran_ Active Member Full Member

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    Whyte gets SPARKED
     
  15. Cfr7

    Cfr7 New Member banned Full Member

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    never thought I will say this , but you are not as bad as I thought you are.
     
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