Make the prescott fight amir!

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Exactly, the Prescott bout helped Khan immensely...he got knocked out, but he also got Roach.
     
  2. BlackBrenny

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    well I think this is just an option, like mccloskey, in case he cant make the peterson fight, because it would take too long for him to wait for the winner of alexander brad
     
  3. AnthonyW

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    I havn't seen much of McCloskey, but even then I would say he would probably ask a few more questions of Khan than Prescott.

    I can see the Prescott bout now, in the build up Prescott will be saying he will knock him out again, etc. Once the first bell goes, Prescott will be expecting to repeat...but Khan won't be there, Prescott will be unloading big bombs and having no success. He will run out of ideas, and Khan will storm to a wide UD.
     
  4. PUNCHDRUNK

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    Lufcrazy, you are almost obsessed with Khan as Laz is...... You seem to believe that Khan has made absolutely no improvements since moving up to 140lbs either as a fighter or in terms of his conditioning. Why would Prescott present just as big a danger to Khan as he did before he hooked-up with Roach. Also at 135lbs, Khan was severely weight-drained and his muscle mass distribution was completely wrong. Too 'top-heavy', Roach said it was a miracle he could even make lightweight. Ariza has since completely physically rebuilt him as a fighter. In the Maidana fight he took plenty of flush right hands & stayed on his feet. Also Maidana is a proven world-level title contender whilst Prescott has been exposed as a crude domestic-level banger at best. You say Prescott punches harder, why because he knocked out a whole taxi-rank of colombian taxi drivers and got lucky with Khan?

    I say lucky, because pre-Roach, Kahn was a knockout waiting to happen, it almost did happen infact before Prescott on a number of occasions.

    Khan pre-Roach & post-Roach are on completely different levels:deal
     
  5. Uncle Rico

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    Honestly, Ant, I don’t like it for two reasons:
    • It’s useless in terms of development. He needs to be looking ahead to the Bradley-Alexander winner, who will be the most important opponent of his career. If he’s not ready for their style – especially Bradley’s – then he’s going to fail in his bid to unify a red-hot division.
    • In addition to being ill-prepared for the more meaningful fights, he’ll get very little credit for beating him. The critics wanted him to face and deal with a big puncher, and now that he’s done that with Maidana, they’ve moved onto a boxer/fighter of a higher skill-level (a Bradley). If he goes back and beats a shitty Prescott, it’ll mean nothing to them. He’ll still be criticised for it.
    But **** it. I’m beginning to wish he does take Prescott on. Just so I can wait for the reaction of these people who are calling for this fight.
     
  6. AnthonyW

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    Spot on, man. :thumbsup
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes he got clinically outboxed by a very disciplined gameplan. Khan has not fought with such discipline for 12 sounds.

    Why is maidana a bigger puncher? He couldn't knock out any of the top names he fought. Khan could take his punches and he couldn't take prescot's.
     
  8. AnthonyW

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    Have you seen Khan v Kotelnik?

    Why is Maidana a big puncher? Ofcourse he's a big puncher, and by looking at his shots alone you should be able to see that.

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    That's the work of a hard puncher.

    The Khan v Prescott bout was at 135lbs. Khan seems to be more stable on his legs now at 140lbs, and since his move to 140lbs, he has shown that.

    Maidana has fought at a higher level, hurt and knocked people out at a higher level.

    And I still don't understand how people can still believe this theory, "Boxer A knocked out Boxer C, but Boxer C took Boxer B's best punches...which means Boxer A is automatically the harder puncher"...( Khan could take his punches and he couldn't take prescot's.)

    It does not work like that at all.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Obsessed, if you look at my post history lately i'd say maybe a quarter are about khan, but in fairness i'll be going to see the fight and so I am naturally more excited then a boxing fan who isn't.

    I wouldn't call myself a khan fan, I root for him due to his nationality but his early arrogance coupled with his ducking of thaxton put me off him.

    I didn't say no improvements full stop, I said non to suggest he could beat prescot in a rematch: he beat maidana because he could take his punches late on. I have never been sold on maidana's power you can check my history to verify that. I digress, he beat maidana because he could take the punches, he couldn't evade them, he took them flush.

    I wholeheartedly believe he cannot take a flush hook off prescot; nor do I believe he has the discipline to beat him a la mitchell.

    Right now is the only realistic window khan has to right the wrong.

    --- to uncle rico: why would I discredit a fight I have repeatedly called for? If you are assuming I am a hater you are wrong. Check my history i've been consistent with this line of thought. I will be there fight night cheering khan on. I have a right to be outspoken about a fight I will be watching live.
     
  10. Uncle Rico

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  11. Uncle Rico

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    lufc, I wasn't referring to you when I was questioning the stance of the Khan-Prescott II supporters. I know you'll maintain your views if he wins. But unfortunately, most of the others won't.
     
  12. AnthonyW

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    Victor Ortiz.
    Williams Gonzalez.
    Victor Cayo.

    These stoppages are at a high(-ish) level, the stand-out one being Ortiz.

    Prescott's KO over a naive Khan is the only stand-out stoppage on Prescott's resume.
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    :patsch Why did I forget these?

    But it was anticipated, that should Khan not get knocked out by him, Maidana would no longer be considered that big of a puncher by some.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    He has fought at a higher level, but he has not knocked out anyone at a higher level. He does not have a ko victory as impressive as prescot's over khan.

    As I said, if he sits back on the ropes and prescot tags him, I think he goes to sleep.

    Jeez i'm not using that theory, I am saying prescot obviously hits very hard because he sparked khan, a guy that got tagged flush repeatedly of this supposed monster puncher.

    As for kotelnick, great performance, but I said twelve rounds, he faded late on as he did vs maidana which again leads me to conclude he would fade late on vs prescot and again not be cable to take his punches.

    Who is a better boxer: hearns or barkley? Everyone called that a lucky punch. Mayorga or forest? Everyone called that a lucky punch. It is too easy to write off the fight and assume khan would win. History usually shows, 90% is the figure, that the original victor takes the rematch.

    Hopefully the fight happens and we can see win called it better between me and you.
     
  15. jack365

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    Stop it with the Rocky stuff.

    If Khan feels its worth the risk, then let him take it. If not, i've no problem Khan not fighting him. Its a backward step fighting Prescott imo.