Making the case for Pulev to beat Joshua

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  1. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    AJ is the favourite- we can all agree on that. But hear me out on this, I think Pulev has a great shot. The below are some reasons why:
    • Jab- if AJ chooses to fight on the outside it will not work like it did vs Ruiz. Ruiz was a lot shorter. AJ doesn't use his height well. Pulev's jab will win. If AJ fights on the inside, Pulev will connect (see bullet 3)
    • Amateur pedigree- Pulev has excellent amateur pedigree. Arguably better than AJ- Cammarelle was robbed, before you mention the Gold medal. AJ struggles when up against fighters with good pedigree (Wlad, Pov, Ruiz)
    • AJ chin- when he is hit clean, AJ is rocked to the boots. Pulev will connect as he has excellent straight shots
    AJ has a lot in his favour too. He is the cash cow and Fury fight is on the line- judges, ref, home advantage all for him.

    It will be interesting. Pulev KO is worth a tenner though...
     
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  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I don’t think Pulev has ever KO’d anyone decent and he looked like **** in his last fight. He’s getting smoked
     
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  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    All i can get behind with these reasons is the jab, I don’t think Pulev hits hard enough to bother AJ, and I seriously doubt Pulev’s amateur career will have any effect on AJ at all. A jab isn’t enough to win at his age
     
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  4. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WhEn Aj Is HiT ClEaN hEs RoCkEd To HiS BoOtS

    Oh yeah it’s not as if he hasn’t had his chin tested by legit punchers. Ruiz messed up his equilibrium from the temple shot not from a shot to his chin. Joshua can take a punch. Better than Pulev anyway. Watch both their Wlad fights and see which one of the two ate Klitschko’s left hooks and which one was on the canvas every time it landed.
     
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  5. Philly161

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    I mean its heavyweight boxing but here's why I disagree.

    1. AJ fought on the outside because Ruiz has faster hands and a better inside game than him. Even as out of shape and unprepared as ruiz was in the second fight, the few times AJ traded with him inside, Andy started to get the better. But Pulev has no inside game to speak of.

    Amateur pedigree- even if I concede that Pulev has a slightly better amateur career, it's not enough of a difference and Pulev is far beyond his amateur days for it to matter imo.

    I don't think Pulev hits as hard as Whyte, Wlad or Ruiz. I also don't think he takes a punch as good as those 3. AJ is a sharp puncher and has power. I really think he is going to knock Pulev out first half of the fight. But that's just me.
     
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  6. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    He's arguably the better boxer though. Physically there is a big advantage to Joshua, agreed.
     
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  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I think the old horse has a ROCKY moment and collapses at the final bell
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    If the Pulev that fought Wlad who's willing to take one to land one, who's sits down on all of his shots, and more than willing to go down a few times and risk getting KTFO in the process, shows up. He has a legit chance. Because I geuinely don't think AJ could stand up to some of the bombs Pulev landed on Wlad. Pulev has underrated power, and while safety first, when he needs to unfurl it, like in the Dinu fight, he can. Sure AJ TKO'd Wlad, but Wlad kept getting back up, time after time, whereas AJ barely got up from the shot Wlad landed on him and had Wlad landed something significant in the ensuing moments, he'd have KO'd AJ cold. So my point is, if AJ landed the shots on Wlad on himself, he'd have certainly KO'd himself. If that makes sense.:lol: Basically what I'm saying, AJ is chinnier than Wlad. Also, Pulev did a good job nullifying Wlad's straight right, it only landed a time or two, which is why he was so reliant on the left hook. So there's a possibility if he can do that with AJ, AJ will get frustrated and possibly overreach and walk into something big that he doesn't recover from.

    But yeah, AJ should be able to beat Pulev.... should, but... you never know.:naughty2:
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  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not likely. Pulev is enough old for him to win. Chance always remains, ppl in forums laughted at Ruiz before his first fight vs A.J.
    Then plenty of posts how A.J will KTFO Ruiz in rematch. It didn't happened.

    Of course Ruiz is better than A.J.
    He just is lazy and leg lazy with short reach for modern HW top.
    Otherwise he is better than A.J.
     
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  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    difficult to tell. Panda hits hard.
    Andy does have a lot of flaws but power isn't one from his weak points at all.
     
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  11. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    brave thread.
    don't forget to bump it if it comes true.
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well, he never dropped Liakhovich, Zumbano K or Dimitrenko, so... Jesus Christ AJ's chin must be hideously awful.:lol:
     
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  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Panda is 33-2-0 . Only fights he had lost were when his opponents were more mobile and agile, scored on him points.
    A.J money boy in rematch and Parker in New Zealand.
    Ruiz is dangerous. Proven flowchart to defeat him is to use his leg laziness etc flaws. Already had been prowen in 2 fights.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I picked him to beat AJ, in the exact way that he beat AJ. I know.:D But the thread was asking us to give a scenario, so I gave one.
     
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Scenario A.J vs Pulev? If A.J is not a bum he will defeat Pulev. He is enough old.
     
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