Malignaggi will not control Khan the way he did Diaz !!!...

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  1. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with this. Khans physical stature is so much better now than before he went to states. Pre-prescott his arms, shoulders, abs etc looked huge on lil pencil legs. He's definately more in proportion now, which enhances his speed (obv best asset) Khans ko's now will be more on his timing, previously he was going into fights looking to blast everyone out. Good job Roach and Ariza.

    With this said I can see khan being that bit too quick, piling up the rounds with cleaner shots and workrate. PM's whiskers are good, hes a spirited fighter and should hear the final bell but drop a wide UD
     
  2. PAULMUFC1999

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    I fancy Khan against Malinaggi as for Maidana I think Khan would take him apart we already seen he cant handle it when, he's against a quicker much more technically gifted boxer when he fought Ortiz however Ortiz let his early success go to his head and took his foot of the peddle, then he tried to go toe to toe with Maidana, not a good idea as he's a brawler who likes to figh on the inside, if Khan did this he would also loose, however i cant see him doing that and he would cruise to a UD or a late KO , maidana is durable so more likely a UD Khan
     
  3. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PM's chin should give us a good idea of Khan's power now and Roach and Alex's work which they have put in the last 18 months. We should see an improved Khan May 15th.

    I am going for Khan to stop him at some point, lets see.
     
  4. badlefthook84

    badlefthook84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does anybody else think paulie has been blaming buddy mcgirt a bit to much for the hatton defeat. Ive watched the 2 diaz fights and contrary to what paulie thinks he did lose the 1st fight and there was definetley no robbery. He lost the fight by 2-3 rounds in my book and if i recall he was hurt badly by a journeyman in an 8 or 10 rounder on the froch-taylor undercard. I think he will be shocked at how fast,powerful and accurate khan is on may 15th.
     
  5. Smudger

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    Paulie matches Khan's speed, I believe that. You need to look over his whole career, but he is ****ing quick, and along with that quite accurate. And his workrate is pretty good too. People think he juns runs and jabs, but he throws a lot of punches, even when he was with McGirt he was usually throwing and landing more than his opponents. He's not just gonna sit back against Khan, he's gonna fight, he'll use his jab to keep Khan off rhythm and halt him, use his punching speed and then he'll get out. Paulie feet are as fast as his hands and he uses them well. He gets in then gets out.
    I think Khan will come out quick in the first few rounds, if Paulie can weather the storm I can see him settling down, working behind his jab, using the ring and boxing with quick combos to a close decision win. Paulie isn't no featherweight, no overage Barrera, no glass jawed incapable Salita, he's gonna come in to win and he won't roll over and let himself be bamboozled by Khan.

    No, McGirt is to blame. Look at the Malignaggi pre-Cotto, he used his jab superbly, in and out, quick as ****. His first fight with Ndou before McGirt's training started to show too much, he outboxed him and I think on one of the scorecards didn't drop a round. Same with Cherry before Ndou. Then he fights Ngoudjo and his jab is just gone, he isn't moving on his feet as much and he's getting caught a lot. Ndou II shows more of this. Did Ndou improve dramitically from the first fight or did Paulie get worse?
    Diaz I wasn't a robbery, is was Van Hoy's 118-110 scorecard which was the problem. That's put to bed now anyway, Paulie won clearly in the 2nd fight.
    And I think Khan will be shocked at how fast and accurate Paulie is.
     
  6. MrMagoo1986

    MrMagoo1986 Active Member Full Member

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    No he really doesnt. I respect ur opinion mate but paulie does not match khan for speed, i genuinely think combinations wise and in terms of speed, flurries, khan is the quickest in the world, obv pac n floyd the other two being closest, but not paulie, yes hes quick and yes hes slick but he aint as quick as khan
     
  7. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    See you are letting your blind racism get in the way of your thoughts again. Tell me 2 fights in which Khan has scored a clean KO and not a TKO and I shall let you off with the 16 mentioned above - Tosspot :good
     
  8. Smudger

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    I will watch more Khan footage then, but when people say "Paulie will get overwhelmed by Khan's speed", the exact same can be said for Khan being and Paulie's speed. Who has Khan faced who matches Paulie's handspeed? And footspeed? Off the top of my head no one comes close. Has Khan been in against someone with a jab as good as Paulie's? No. People always come down to speed and power with Khan. His power is overrated. His speed is obvious, but Paulie is experienced enough to use his feet to get out of range, you think he's just gonna stay in the pocket and let Khan work? Like I said, he's gonna stay out of danger with the jab, come in throw a combo then get the **** out. He's done this his whole career, he knows what to do and how. What about Khan? What will he do when Paulie comes in? Well gimme an hour or so to properly see how Khan works and I'll get back to you. :lol: All I've seen defensively from Khan his hands high and cover up. He can do that, but Paulie will be in and out too quick, he's not gonna let Khan throw his fast flurries.
     
  9. MrMagoo1986

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    i wont arue with u on ur point that khans power is overrated simply because we dont know for sure yet. Kotelniks never been dropped before so the gameplan was always gonna be a points win and salita well he was salita and he got done in 70 secs so again hard to tell. Im not gonna talk pre-prescott cause obv alot has changed with khan since then, but this will be the fight to show us alot about khan. I do sense his power has increased though and he obv still has the speed. My hunch though is that khan will use angles for his shots, and shots that u dont see will hurt more than those u can see. And accumalation also.
    As for paulie htting and moving, yeh he does have good footwork but khan can either hit and move (kotelnik) and follow a gameplan to perfection, or he can be off the leash and unload (no fear of a ko). I suspect he will go with the latter which is probably the reason many are suggesting a ko.

    I do think paulie could drop, but a ko? not too sure, though if i was a betting man :hey i would bet on a tko due to too many shots being taken and for khan to look very good in this fight
     
  10. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    The probalem with Khan's power is the thing (at the moment) that is helping him.

    Due to him being a little suspect on the chin, and his defense being woeful, Roach has (rightfully so) took him back to extreme basics. He's a jab/straight right hand fighter, and is so to avoid making openings for his opponents to take advantage of. He never throws uppercuts or body shots and throws hardly any hooks either. It's more accumulation than power with him. Not saying it's a bad thing I mean a win is a win.
     
  11. MrMagoo1986

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    totally agree about the hooks and uppercuts. Id even go as far as saying his body shots need to be vastly improved. But ive got a feeling we may see all this come out in the paulie fight. Khans been with roach some 18months now and if were fair to khan we havent seen much of him with roach. Faigan was over pretty quick, barrera again everyone knows, kotelnik, the fight had a gameplan to it so khan had to stick to it and salita got done in the 1st round. This should be the fight where we really see khans improvements since teaming with roach
     
  12. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I expect some improvements, and a Khan TKO via flurry.
     
  13. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Yep probably. Paulie will no doubt test him like no other has, and if I'm totally honest I expect him to be standing come the 12th so Khan will have to start exploring other avenues. This is the world stage now and jab/straight right wont be too succesful agaianst these guys at this level (unless your Wladimir of course :))
     
  14. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got a lot more in his arsenal now, he's got a pretty viscious left hook, and his uppercut is coming on leaps and bounds, still cant forget the one he hit kotelnik in the 12th, how the fck he stayed up from that i will never know.

    But i wanna see him do a number on paulie, cos Bradley, Maidana and Alexander whooped competent opponents in their last outings, Khans gotta catch up if he wants to stay in those ranks.
     
  15. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    Learn to score a fight.