Man heavyweights have gotten big

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  1. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    wlad yes, vitali no.

    frazier is my favourite heavy but i could see wlad hurting hit early but then joe grinding him down.

    i see vitali hitting him at range and grabbing him close ala ali 2
     
  2. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    GTFO n00b. :patsch

    Voidtali is NOT a Great fighter, not even bloody close.
    V.Bitchko is a Grade B robotic boxer-puncher, with v.overated power And chin.

    He feasts on shitty bums, tomato cans, fatty bums And 12 yrs past-prime SHOT-as-**** Briggs.

    He even retired like a COWARD for 4 yrs to avoid Past-Prime Rahman, who he pulled out of a fight with 5 times!!

    Quitali would have NO CHANCE VS 217lb Foreman, 212lb Ali, Holmes And Liston, 200lb Joey Louis, 209lb Frazier, even 218lb Tyson FFS And you know i HATE him as much as i hate VITLAY. There lots more, but im way too lazy to list them for a brain-dead Klit-ite ****** like yourself...:hi:


    Foreman Hooook!:hat
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A good big man may beat a good little man,but a good little man will always beat an AVERAGE big man. Which is the case here.
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    He musta forgot, when natural Super-middle 6'0 Byrd, who debuted at 169lbs, made PEAK 250lb 6'8 UNDEFEATED Quitali quit on his quiting-stool. :happy


    "I cant go on, it hurts too much!!" :|:|:| :rofl
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael Spinks weighed 170 pounds when he took out David Sears in three, just three pounds more than Fitz when Ruby Robert took Corbett. A year later, he made history against Holmes, still under 200. But at 170, his mobility and quickness certainly wouldn't have been compromised competing against the heavyweights he beat. (Being a slow starter, I don't penalize him at all for what a peaking Tyson did to him. But Michael actually did last longer than Etienne, Marvis and Savarese. Overall, half a dozen other big top heavyweights failed to survive the opening three minutes with Tyson.)

    At 5'5-1/2", an old and fat Qawi actually won his share of rounds against the leanest and lightest Foreman of George's second career, and gave future heavyweight ATG Holyfield 15 rounds of hell in their CW unification showdown. Leon Spinks was still a future cruiser weight when he stopped the huge punching 6'4" 220 Mercado in nine to earn his shot at Holmes. (Bernardo had iced Berbick in one, after having previously beaten Trevor as an amateur.)

    Put both Michael Spinks and Dwight Qawi at their LHW peaks against all the heavyweight opponents they actually did fight, and the results might surprise some people. It's simply not allowed to happen in today's safety paranoid environment.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, and it was always something promoters were anxious about. Lots of old-timers told stories about how their announced weights were a few pounds more than they weighed in at, others admitted they put weights in their shoes to come in at a comsmetically heavier weight, to satisfy promoters and commissioners or just to break some of the confidence of a larger foe.
    Some of these stories are undoubtedly exaggerated to make the smaller fighter seem more heroic. But there's truth there too.

    I sometimes wonder whether some of today's fighters are actually manipulating the reading on the scales or being abetted in such a fraud by promoters and corrupt sanctioning bodies.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Or Dempsey could put on the black-face, eat doughnuts and slack off training, lose his KO punch, and fighting exclusively on the defensive, negative behind a peek-a-boo of 12-ounce gloves, and be about as good as anyone the Klits have ever beat.
     
  9. mister

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    you are right a heavy from the old days woukld even be considered small in the cruiserweight division these fighter today are not only bigger but they are faster and stronger a marciano or a dempsey would not even be a contender in todays era:think
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You tell Hasim Rahman that some spindly pasty Jack Mormon is gonna kick his ass.
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could tell him that previous to fighting Klitschko, he contested evenly against a pacifist and then quit against a fat 40 year old former middleweight.
     
  12. psychoshane

    psychoshane Active Member Full Member

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    To be fair to Dempsey did fight black fighters on the way up and was willing to defend against Harry Wills who he was confident he could beat but Tex Rickard wouldn't allow the fight to happen.
     
  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    When it comes down to it, Shot Rahman was probably a top 5 win for Wlad, so give him his props. :lol:
     
  14. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    People are generally taller. Also eastern Europeans tend to be taller than most, and they weren't fighting back in the day
     
  15. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    :lol::lol: