Man I kept hearing how Tua would destroy Marciano, Tyson, Frazier, Dempsey....

He's 1 for me. Who do you have first? I don't hold past prime fights against a guy. His effort against Lewis clinched it for me.

 

ike ibeabuchi

 

:good

 

OK. Close one. Yeah, people get irrational about these two never was's for some reason.

 

The man's 5'9 37yo you ****, what were the following doing at 37:

Marciano - retired for 5 years
Dempsey - retired for 5 years
Frazier - drawing with the great Floyd Cummings
Ali - a year removed from losing to Leon Spinks
Ezzard Charles - losing to everyone
Bowe - going to an SD against Billy Zumbrum

 

Ayala vs Yori Boy was an awesome fight in my opinion an underrated classic.

 

What did they all do in their primes though? Shitload more than the terribly overrated Tua anyway.

 

...What did you just say?

 

Being 37, inactive and never being great had something to do with that **** performance dont you think?

 

Tua beat 2 linear champions, 4 champions total and going 51-3-2 while being 1 of the most devastating punchers in HW history.

To the Rocky and Dempsey nuthuggers, he still KO's your boy brutally prime for prime :yep

 

I thought people were more intelligent and less obviously pathlogically biased than this, Tua is a shot fighter. Tyson doesnt get his whole legacy derided for losing to Kevin McBride, Tua is probably at the Williams-Tyson stage right now.
Having followed his career since pre Ruiz, I could see from the first bell that he was done, its his timing mostly, and his punch resistance and motivation which is probably just the money he is so short of.

Tua's best was under Lou Duva's guidance when he beat genuine big name contenders up to 1998, after that Kevin Barry got his claws into him and changed him into a fat, less conditioned and far less active one-trick pony.
And now 10 years on hes just a mentally and physically done fighter.

To use this latest fight as a yardstick is the ****ing stupidest thing

 

Double-P you are becoming the best poster on the ESB Classic section. You saved me a lot of time with these two posts of yours.:good

 

Yes janitor, I now agree with you completely and I feel silly that I said he's better than Arreola.

He means the current top 10.

 

This tgread does not discredit him? SQ is rating Tua's all time status vased on a fight a age 37. Reaffirms what everyone already knew ? Discrediting Tua's power and chin .. the whole thread is weak and anyone with common sense knows it.

 

Tua's at least 10 years past his prime, and he looked clearly washed-up 5 years ago, so I dont know why you were expecting something "great". :-(