you say that about any fighter, if you won't to pick there career apart you can, Echols took the fight and lost. it is as simple as that. For the first 8 to 9 years Mundine did a good job, beating good fighter's and some world class fighter's, after the Geale fight which was a great fight, very close. It has been a flat out disgrace of mismatches. which doesn't matter if they were not on TV or on basic cable but PPV, it is a joke.