Manny is a 5 weight world champ

I see where I made the mistake (I was typing and thinking fast).

Naz/Barrera/Pac were all linear champs @ 126, my point is the Castillo/Corrales/Casamayor bull**** you number one vs. number two boys keep going on about.

Not to bloody mention Pac/Flyweight!

When the fornicating has Sasakul ever won the WBA Flyweight title?

http://www.boxrec.com/title_search.php?title=WBA&division=Flyweight&SUBMIT=Go

 

You are right . . . officially only 5 divisional titles . . . but others including some sports media people is counting the 126 Ring belt he got from MAB at 126.

Don't forget that Barrera threw away his 126 WBC title before he fought Pac to avoid the sanctioning fee.

 

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Pac is awesome.

 

No, that was my point; linear is status of undisputed, nothing more (excuse the first reply).

I was talking of the real Vitali situation where people viewed him as the linear champ for winning the ring belt.

I see where our wires were crossed.

My beef is calling Castillo a former linear lightweight champion, he isn’t… and that goes for any other similar scenarios.

 

great achievement. but the fact that he could've won titles in 8 classes (if he didn't skip a couple) just means there are way too many weight classes

 

1. IBO/Lineal Light Welterweight Champion (Kostya Tszyu)

2. WBC Lightweight Champion (Not Linear)
3. WBC Super Featherweight Champion (Not Linear)

4. Ring/Linear Featherweight Champion (Naseem Hamed)

5. IBF Super Bantamweight Champion (Not Linear)
6. WBC Flyweight Champion (Not Linear)



Linear = Undisputed



No more of this Number One vs. Number Two bull****.

 

Check my thread on the last 7 linear champs in every weight class.

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138495

Here it is.

 

C’mon you freaks, when the **** did Castillo ever unify, it’s you guys who are creating and maintaining this s***.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/light.htm

 

And when did Floyd ever win the WBA/IBF Lightweight Title you greasy mada you…

How did he take the linage from Whitaker?

 

He didn't. He re-established the lineage when he won the Ring title by beating Castillo in the rematch.

Cyber Boxing is great, but just like any other website, it's not official.

 

To further illustrate my point, Pacquiao was universally recognized as lineal champ at 130 even though neither he nor Marquez unified any belts. Besides the VACANT Ring belt, the only other belt at stake was the WBC. It was a clear match between #1 and #2, and in the event of that in lieu of an existing undisputed champion or lineal champ available, the winner of #1 and #2 is clear lineal champ.

And by the way, your Pesci avatar is badass. :good

 

Also for the sake of argument, I agree with you in that I don't think Vitali was linear for beating Sanders for the Ring belt. Not because Vitali didn't unify, but because Sanders wasn't even the second best heavyweight at the time...even according to the Ring (he was #3 pre-fight).

I just think that with today's sanctioning bodies (4 of them...even if you just recognize the first 3), being undisputed is only remotely possible. Look at the situation with Tim Bradley getting stripped because the WBC made him choose between their belt and the WBO within one month.

I think in the event of no linear champ available to continue lineage, #1 vs. #2 is sufficient by today's standards. Remember that a few decades ago, unifying only 2 belts (WBA & WBC) was not that tough of an obstacle. But FOUR? Especially four bodies who not only are corrupt, but make unifying impossible for a fighter if such a fight isn't lucrative or prestigious enough for their organization?

#1 vs. #2 is legit.

 

this belts are ****in confusing!!!!