Manny looked nervous at the weigh-in. Your thoughts?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Of course the weight matters, but i've watched amateur psychologists trying to "****yze" the weigh in for years and it is all bull****. "Oh did you see his eyes?" "Oh he has an alpha grin!" "Oh he looked away!" and none of that matters on fight night. At all. I've seen the majority on here swear blind that fighter A looked "intimidated" and then fighter A goes out the following night and boxes like a champ and gets the W. It's all bull****.

    You got guys on here claiming both fighters looked out of sorts and are at a disadvantage. Nonsense. Even if one side is "right" and a guy looked nervous, so what? He could look very very different tomorrow. In fact they usually do.

    Bunch of cr@p.
     
  2. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Before the staredown, Manny is pointing to his shirt, front and back, even when Floyd is calling him he's flexing to show his back. Once again it's the adrenalin making his body move. It's a natural instinct to move when you have an adrenalin rush, it's how we have evolved to survive from the predators in the past, but in boxing you learn to control that adrenalin because it does waste a lot of energy, and at the moment I don't believe Manny is in control of that adrenalin as good as Floyd. It doesn't mean Manny will lose, it just means he's wasting energy that he needs before the fight.
     
  3. McGrain

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    :lol: see what I mean?

    Listen, friend, i don't have a fighter in this fight. I don't care who wins. Can you compute that? I am not "admitting" anything because I am not trying to protect anyone by deliberate avoidance of admission.

    And if you thinking "winning the staredown" is equivalent to "banking the first round" you don't know anything.
     
  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying Manny is scared. That's where people get it wrong, they think nerves as just fear, it's not. Nerves is adrenalin. Both guys will be nervous, both guys will have adrenalin, that's normal, but at the moment one guy seems more control of that adrenalin than the other. On the night it might not matter, but Manny needs to be in more control because if he carries on he's going to feel like he's done 10 rounds before he's done one round.
     
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    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched it again and I keep coming to the conclusion that Manny was nervous and his acting was a front to hide these nerves. Can't blame him for being nervous though, he carries the hopes of a nation.

    Floyd looked super focused which was worrying cause I wanna see him on the canvas crying
     
  7. WildStyle

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    No he didn't you flogging idiot
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Well i'm having a conversation with an other guy, concurrently, who believes that specifically because Mayweather is calm and not getting in the other guys face like he did against Paulie and Cotto and Hatton, THAT proves something, THAT means something deep.

    I think you're both talking ****, being absolutely frank. I'm trying not to be a **** about it because enjoy the fight and the build up any way you like, i don't think you're an ******* or anything, but to me it's all smoke-filled coffee-house cr@p. You know when you know. And if you think you know anything meaningful now you don't, in my opinion.
     
  10. boxer101

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    Floyd didnt win the stare down a few members of TMT were screaming at pacquiao which distracted him
    see for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbcn9Wz4-bo
     
  11. boxingscience

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    Manny is nervous for that s****own aswell. All fighters are nervous, it's part of how we have evolved as humans, but Manny is much more control of his nerves at that s****own. It's not the smiles I'm talking about, it's the movement. Look at the s****own, Manny is standing still, posting still with a fist, he's much more control. At the Floyd staredown, he's moving his legs, he's moving his body, that's the adrenalin doing that. I just feel Floyd is more in control with the adrenalin than Pacquiao is at the moment. Obviously in the fight it doesn't mean nothing because Pacquiao can catch Floyd and the fight could be over, but what it does mean is that Pacquiao is wasting energy before the fight has even begun.
     
  12. boxingscience

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    I know what adrenalin does to the human mind, it makes you move more because you have to run at any moment, that's how we have evolved, but as boxers, you learn to control that adrenalin so it doesn't waste energy before the fight. Like you said during the fight it doesn't mean nothing on occasions, but it does mean Manny might feel like he's done 10 rounds before he's done even one round. That's what nerves, adrenalin does if you don't have total control of it.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Well Manny is an enormously experienced competitor who probably knows more about the affects of adrenaline than you do having experienced it on multiple occaions in massive fights. If he doesn't, he is surrounded by people paid specifically to make sure that he understands them.

    In my opinion, "diagnosing" the possibility that he might "feel like he's done 10 rounds before he's done even one round" based upon a few minutes film of a fighter at the weigh in for the biggest fight of his career is nonsensical.

    But that's just me.
     
  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    First of all, Manny was the same Manny he's always been at these events. Floyd is a bit different.
    So if anybody is more nervous than usual, it's Floyd.

    More importantly, shortly after the first bell, all that stuff is gone and your sole focus is the guy in front of you.

    Except for the opening minute or so, fear/nerves/ jitters etc, play no role of any significance to the unfolding of the fight.
     
  15. Gneus7

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    Adrenaline in these situations is normal. To me Manny just looks happy, excited and pumped for this fight. He does not look nervous to me at all, he looks raring to go.

    Actually if Floyd has adrenaline in his system and is fighting against it and forcing himself to stay still, that is not good for you. If he has no adrenaline in that situation that's a bit weird and potentially worrying. Floyd didn't look quite right there imo probably a bit nervous but as you said that is normal.

    Not really. Fighters don't need to stay perfectly still to conserve energy and have no nerves or excitement before a fight to perform at their best. The fight is happening quite a few hours after the weigh in, plenty of time for Manny and Floyd to replenish any spent energy.