Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao vs Floyd 'Pretty Boy' Mayweather who wins?

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  1. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    This is the fight that boxing quite simply has to see. In one corner you have the attacking typhoon that is Manny Pacquiao, in the other you have the defensive genius that is Floyd Mayweather Jr. Both fighters have come off great performances, Pacquiao pummelling Miguel Cotto to defeat in 12 rounds and Mayweather schooling a great fighter in Juan Manuel Marquez. Also their personalities would make for a fantastic build up with the humble Pacquiao vs the arrogant Mayweather.

    So who wins possibly the biggest welterweight fight since Thomas Hearns-Sugar Ray Leonard almost 30 years ago?

    Vote and discuss. :good
     
  2. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather. As good as Pac was last night I think there were a few weaknesses that Mayweather would have been seeing with interest.

    Cant write a lot as gotta pop out, but for now yeah Floyd via decision.
     
  3. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather with a close decision. Pacquiao's speed and workrate will make it a close fight, plus last night he proved that Mayweather cannot just blow him away because he took some big shots from Cotto and wasn't really affected. Mayweather just has a bit too much class, but this is his biggest challenge in the division without a doubt.
     
  4. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in all honesty, i cant see how this fight DOESNT happen....if hbo protect floyd, they are damaging their 'investment'...it will seriously harm floyds reputation if he doesnt fight pacquaio....and if he doesnt, it makes pacquaio the p for p king by default....

    i dont think this is an easy fight for pacman, no way, no how..i much prefer the style of pacman over the intelligent, skillfull, surgical dismantling practiced by pbf...but pbf has a superb boxing brain and i reckon his 'style' gives 99% of fighters fits...this might be a ww version of hagler/leonard, an incisive, accurate counter punching mayweather being chased by an aggresive more one dimensional but more powerful pacman....(i thought, with the sound off, that hagler beat leonard by the way....)....it might not be a classic 'fight' but might be a clasic bull and matador contest...and i just have an inkling that althought the matador might make manny's baby bull look foolish over 7 or 8, at some point the bull is gonna catch, and hurt, the guy twirling in the cape....
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I wouldn't compare Floyd's last win to Manny's. Manny stopping Cotto was a lot more impressive than Mayweather going the distance with a Lightweight.
     
  6. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ill stick my neck out and say Pacquiao on points.


    Castillo wasnt far off beating Mayweather, if Pacman has Mayweather on the back foot rnough (and he can box going forward) then I think he can get the deicision eased on Mayweather being too negative.
     
  7. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    I would love to see mayweather lose to pacquiao but I can't help but see pbf get the points decision. Hopefully I'm wrong.
     
  8. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    I'm just hyping the fight. ;)

    In reality though I think Floyd produced an excellent performance considering he had been out for almost 2 years and didn't show any signs of ring rust, Marquez was clearly cherry-picked though and I rate Pac's win over Cotto far more highly.
     
  9. BURNLEYBLUE

    BURNLEYBLUE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've gone against Pac in 4 of his last 5 and been proved wrong. Not goin to change a wining formula so Mayeather on points and this time I'll be happy to be proved wrong.
    Pacman is a ****in machine.
     
  10. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm not sure yet, if the fight is made I'll give it a serious analysis. The thing is you can't treat Pacquiao like he's got one easy dimension to diffuse for Mayweather anymore. He's a complete fighter now. He can breathe fire like the old Pacquiao. He has an effective right jab. He can move and box. His defence is pretty good. He can counterpunch. He is the complete package and he actually puts it all together on one night which Mayweather hasn't done at welterweight.
     
  12. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever the outcome this fight has to be made. I worry it never will be though. On one hand it'll be a record breaking fight, huge huge purses for both and amazing recogntion for the winner, on the other hand you have ego's, petty little grudges, purse splits and stuff getting in the way. Just go 50/50 and get it on.

    Im starting to save the money now just incase it does happen, I have to be there!
     
  13. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/15/manny-pacquiao-and-floyd-mayweather-jr-only-fight-/

    As of Saturday night, can anyone think of a single reason why Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao shouldn’t fight?

    It kind of seems silly at first. Of course, there has to be some minor, highly insignificant, but ultimately negative thing about the two fighting one another.

    But then really think about it. Is there?

    Floyd Mayweather Sr. says there is. But he’s not telling anybody.

    “Lil Floyd would whoop (him), but to tell you the truth, I don’t think he should fight him,” Mayweather Sr. said. “That would be my advice to him.”

    If he’d have no problem beating him though, then why not take the fight?

    “I have my own reasons,” he said. “I’ll let you think about it for a second.”

    Whatever Mayweather Sr.’s reasons are, chances are they’d have a hard time stacking up against the reasons for why the two should meet in the ring in early 2010.

    As Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, described it, it’s a fight the world wants to see. Moments after Pacquiao’s historic win over Miguel Cotto for his world title in a seventh weight class, fans from inside the MGM Grand Garden Arena started chanting, "We want Floyd."

    Roach says that he’ll take whatever fight is the best deal for Pacquiao, but his pick if Mayweather.

    “We’ll fight whoever we negotiate with the best. If Floyd wants a 65/35 split, he’s not going to get that,” Roach said. “We’ll take the best deal that Bob negotiates for, but personally, I want Mayweather.”

    Back in September, following Mayweather’s unanimous decision win over Juan Manuel Marquez, his manager and close friend Leonard Ellerbe said that Pacquiao was the next obvious choice from a marketing standpoint.

    That much is especially obvious, as the Mayweather and Pacquiao fights — although Saturday’s numbers aren't official, it’s certainly a reasonable assumption — marked the first time since 1999 that a single calendar year sold two pay-per-view fights that reached more than 1 million viewers each.

    As Vice President of HBO Sports Operations Mark Taffet will enthusiastically attest, they are obviously the two most marketable fighters in the world.

    “The two fighters’ persona and performance in the ring separates them from the pack,” Taffet said. “From a media aspect, they compliment each other. Pacquiao receives a tremendous following from the West and Southwest markets, whereas in Mayweather we see a lot of Midwest and East Coast activity.

    “They are two megastars but to very different target audiences, which is what makes it almost a perfect storm from a marketing perspective.”

    Even their styles are tailor-made for one another.

    Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO) is the aggressor, who has shown a willingness to take a punch to give one, as well as a constant desire to finish fights even when he’s well ahead on a scorecard.

    Mayweather (40-0, 25 KO) is the tactical defender, whose elusive ability is often referred to as poetry in motion; always the type of fighter that looks to score points and attend a post-fight press conference free of damage.

    The trainer in Roach says he has the blueprint to defeat Mayweather — something the undefeated boxer is constantly asserting doesn’t exist.

    “We’d break him down and beat him up,” Roach said. “Floyd can’t break an egg; he’s fragile. He hurts his hands all the time. He has speed, but if he lays on the ropes and rolls his shoulders, we’ll take everything he gives us.

    “I have a great game plan for Mayweather, and I know how to beat the guy.”

    Mayweather Sr., on the other hand, remains unimpressed by the Filipino and the wins he has over opponents that aren’t on the same level as his son.

    “We ain’t worried about that fight. Tell me where you see a 5-foot-5 (expletive) hitting someone who’s just standing right in front of him,” said Mayweather Sr., referring to the Cotto fight. “That’s what we saw tonight.

    “He hasn’t fought the greatest fighter yet. That might be his next task, but I don’t know.”

    One person who doesn’t care about Mayweather Sr.’s withheld reasons for the two not to fight is HBO President of Sports Ross Greenburg, who was already in the media center arguing with Mayweather Sr. on the subject immediately following Saturday’s fight.

    Before any of the fighters had arrived for questioning, Greenburg was heard saying to Mayweather Sr. that he knew the fight should happen and that it was time to make it happen.

    “I don’t want to say it’s just a question of money,” Grennburg said. “When you have a situation where you’ve created two big events in the last three months, basically to set up a semifinals in the 147-pound weight class, and the American public demands to see the fight it has to happen.

    “And the way it happens is to induce all sides by getting everyone to check their egos at the door, sit down at a table and hash out the terms. Each side has to look at the big picture, which is there is a boat-load of money and a fight too important for this sport not to happen.”

    Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, who promoted Mayweather until the fighter bought out his contract in 2006 because of a falling out, confessed that even he was more than willing to put their differences aside to make the fight.

    “I’m not going to put up with any kind of nonsense — no trash talk, I’m not going to negotiate a fight in newspapers,” Arum said. “If Floyd Mayweather wants to fight Manny Pacquiao, he knows who to call. Period.

    “There will be none of this, ‘I hate him, he hates me,’ — that doesn’t matter. If he wants to fight, let him call me.”

    According to Greenburg, that was news Mayweather didn’t need to hear.

    Right before Pacquiao emerged from his final medical checks in his locker room, Greenburg walked to the microphone to deliver news.

    “I just got off the phone with (Golden Boys Promotions CEO) Richard Schaeffer,” Greenburg said. “He told me point-blank that Bob Arum would be getting that call on Monday and plans to come in and meet with Bob next to week to make the Mayweather fight.

    “I think we can all hope and pray that a fight of that magnitude and importance to the sport of boxing can truly be made, because it is time to capitalize on all the hard work that was done over the last three months. We can look forward to one of the biggest events in boxing history. Let’s see what happens, stay tuned.”

    Monday can’t come soon enough.
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Good job Mayweather Sr has no relevance. Senile old man.
     
  15. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Mayweather wins JUST and I will be having no sleep in the 2 weeks running up to it