Manny Pacquaio overrated?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac was all that one could pray for in a fighter. Pac had one real nemesis, and he really lost all those fights but Willie Pep lost 3-4 to Saddler and is still considered greater than him. Pac is way beyond legend status.

    Calling him overrated isn't even silly, it's disrespect. No one should even question Pac, I think he's damn near beyond reproach.
     
  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont think its fair to say Pac lost all fights to JMM. They were honestly close to draws too tbh
     
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  4. TowelThrower

    TowelThrower Y'all must've forgot Full Member

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    How can you "over rate" such a fighter just look at his resume, you're as likely to find a similar CV as you are to find a pile of gold the next time you open a door. Just appreciate the Pacman. I hope he stays retired unless he fights Mcgregor in a fun exhibition, although the Irishman seems to have a lot of pent up frustration in his interview with Del Boy lol. Those quoting Dinamita who I love, his resume seems to largely revolve around Pac which I understand, just try and take into account Dinamita is just one chapter, amazingly epic as it is, in this guys career. He struggled with him but he also gave him absolute fits despite conclusively getting decked in the end.
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he lost every single fight. Every fight was competitive. Fight 4 ironically is the one I thought Pac looked the best in.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Same, it's the one official win for Juan and the punctuation mark on their rivalry but until basically the moment that right hand landed it was a vindicating performance for Pac.
     
  7. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like the JMM rivalry. Up untill he knocked him out they were about even troughout 3,5 fights.
    It was always ending in one of them ko'ing the other. Only thing more fitting would be a double ko.
    I think last time I scored it I had Pac winning the first fight, second a draw and the third fight a jmm win.
    Its a huge part of Marquez legacy but just a part of Pacquiao's. To call the guy overrated is an insult to the sport. He had basically 3 hof careers in 1, came from nothing and fought everyone.

    I wish every boxer was like Pac. The sport would have been in a beter place then.

    Only fight im really missing from the mini fab 4 is jmm vs el terrible. That would have been a great fight.
     
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  8. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Nikita Tszyu is a gentlemen and a scholar Full Member

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    Good post
     
  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top 15 ATG. Fought and beat many HOFers. Broke records. Achieved what most wouldn't be able to match. Gave boxing fans incredible performances, memorable fights, legendary rivalries. And the number of losses doesn't determine a fighters legacy and credibility. Just look at guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Ezzard Charles, Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan, Archie Moore, etc.

    No amount of hating will change Pac's standing as a true ATG and a once in a lifetime fighter. Boxing was fortunate to have him around.
     
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  10. jeevacation

    jeevacation My fav active fighter is Ebonie Cotton. banned Full Member

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    It depends.

    Where do you rate him?
     
  11. Ike

    Ike Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Pacquiao is overrated, his defeats against Horn and Bradley were robberies. He lost the fourth fight against Marquez, yes, and in my opinion he also lost the third. But Marquez was a great champion, a solid ATG, it's not a disgrace to lose to a boxer like the Mexican. Pacquiao also won against the Mexican, and if a judge in the first fight hadn't made a mistake in compiling the scorecard after the first round (he gave Pacquiao a 10-7 instead of a 10-6), the Filipino would have won the first match. Then Pac Man defeated Morales and Barrera twice, Cotto, Margarito, Thurman at almost 41, Bradley twice after the robbery in the first fight, Matthysse, Broner, Hatton. Pacquiao isn't overrated, he's one of the best fighters in history.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not overrated at all. In terms of greatness, Pac > Mayweather jr. The OP doesn't know squat...
     
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  13. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends where you have him all time, I personally wouldn’t have him (or Mayweather) in the top 20-25.
    If you have him top 20 or better I’d say you’re overrating him.
     
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  14. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Nikita Tszyu is a gentlemen and a scholar Full Member

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    Bradley beat him so did Horn. Crystal clear.
     
  15. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Nikita Tszyu is a gentlemen and a scholar Full Member

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    He got planted lights out 2-3 times. Overrated imo.