Manny Pacquiao ATG claim

Probably the best fighter that ever lived.... I think he has proven that he is in the top three ATG, but keep in mind, and I dont consider Ali the GOAT, to me thats Joe Louis... then you have ray robinson as well but defently pac fits into the 3 spot ATG with ease...

 

He's certainly great. He should be in the same company as Duran and SRL etc.

 

There is no reason as to why he shouldnt be top 10 ATG.

 

good stuff

 

Look at hearns though, if he was fighting today he would be undefeated and could even pick up a belt at cruiser and heavy with those poor bunch of fat slobs. Imagining no klit fight of course)

 

Just actually **** the **** off. Even contender Lebedev would actually kill Hearns.

 

You are a full blown ****in ****** if you believe that.

 

HAhaha I know your kidding around but you have to be the most unpredictable mother****er in this forum

Seriously Top 15 no less if he stops now. He may even get a bump 10 years from now.

 

And then came the FACTS: :good

1996-Pacquiao gets KO
1999-Pacquiao gets KO
2000-Pacquiao gets KD for more than 10 secs. vs Nedal Hussein
2001-Pacquiao gets gift draw against Agapito Sanchez
2004-Pacquiao gets gift draw vs Marquez after dropping him 3 times.
2005-Pacquiao LOSES to Morales who had just lost to Barrera and then lost to journey man Zahir Raheem.
2008-Pacquiao gets gift against Marquez.

Notable wins since 2000:

2003-Marco Antonio Barrera-Not in his physical prime
2006-Erik Morales (past his best Clearly) *Came down in weight
2008- David Diaz-Worst titlist, arguably had just lost to shot Morales
2008- Oscar De La Hoya-Shot, *Came down in weight
2009- Ricky Hatton-Previously gotten KTFO by feather fisted Mayweather
2009- Miguel Cotto- Previosuly KTFO. Arguably not the same fighter. *Came down in weight.
2010- Antonio Margarito- Previously KTFO *Came down in weight

*Any true fight fan knows that when a fighter needs to put added focus on making weight, it distracts and takes away from actually preparing for the fight, not to mention the consequences that come from dehydration.

**Also, I find it interesting how some of Pac's biggest wins are vs fighters coming off devastating losses or getting KTFO.

***One should take into account everything Roach says regarding pac's opponents.

Just like Max Kellerman said last Saturday, Pac's career has been carefully orchestrated....something along those lines.

Everything I posted has been facts except for the gifts opinions.

 

oki lets take a look at tis, hearns would beat a guy like lebedev, and your telling me he cant beat some dude like ruiz or valuev when they had the world title, todays fighters in topweights are mostly bums, you can say what you want but this is common sence, and why would beat hearns at welter,light middle or middlweigt? little floyd cotto pacquiao and felix sturm or paul williams, **** off with that ****.

 

ill give you credit for being relentless :rofl

 

Manny is the best fighter of the last 20 years, that's for sure.