Manny Pacquiao is arguably Top 15 of all time in ATG rankings

Ringside journalists as a whole have been grossly wrong about so many fights. Look everywhere, most truly believe JLC won that fight.
Mayweather beat JLC convincingly though, in the rematch.

 

Look at the arguments, they're reasonable.
Max Kellerman has a history of always speaking well of Mayweather. Whenever anyone says anything negative about Mayweather, they're all of a sudden biased haters.
These fans that Max was speaking about in the video, and you are among them, are the die-hard Floyd fanbase that just throw logic out of the window.

 

I'm not. You can ask any moderator. Willing to do a permanent ban bet, where all of the accounts you accuse me of being get banned if I am any one of those guys.

The view that Pacquiao is greater than what we originally thought is an emerging case, as Pacquiao's name is ageing well.
I think Pacquiao would be seen by some as a Top 10 GOAT, and they have an amazing argument.

Think about it, a light flyweight who wins the flyweight lineal championship, beats ATG's and HOF's along the way and goes on to become an ATG welterweight, and gets a belt against a good opponent at light middleweight, 11 divisions from when he started to his highest weight achievement.

 

The landscape since the 50's has been one of rampant PED use, and even worse, back then there were less stringent testing.

 

PED's from the 50's were the raw PED's not just simulators.
60's, 70's, 80's - RAW PED's, raw steroids, so rampant. Higher levels, awful testing.
PEDs from 80's, 90's, too.

Pac is in an era where EVERYONE are said to be on it anyway. That's why I'm not going to completely dismiss all of Floyd's career even though everyone is 100% justified in thinking Floyd was a drug cheat.


..Yes, that is what Pacquiao from then was able to do. Pac from 126lbs when his power and speed were echelons greater was fiercer.

 

You gotta think about what you're saying there. Pacquiao's legacy is hurt because whilst semi-shot, he lost to a guy who's naturally bigger and started 6 divisions north of him? As far as I'm concerned, like Duran, Pac's legacy in the welterweight divisions are bonuses only and should only be seen as that, especially by 2015!

Edit: What if Naoya Inoue, many years from now, ends up losing a highly competitive fight whilst semi-shot, to Terence Crawford? How much are you going to hold that against him?

The case of Manny is really confusing at first, people are not quite aware of how great he is but when they join the dots with consistency, things start to change as it did for me.