Manny Pacquiao is now Top 15 ATG!!!

Hagler was a great fighter but....no way higher than PAcMan....you need to list their accomplishments next each of their name...Pacmans are far greater than Hagler. No direspect...Hagler best win was vs Hearns..who was a guy coming up from Welter. Whos punch resitance wsnt the best...he lost Sugar Ray at age 32

 

In the beginning of this thread you had him at 21, he jumped 8 places because of this fight?

 

pacquiao for me is between 20 and 25 ATG

 

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Roberto Duran
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Benny Leonard
8. Lamgford
9. Willie Pep
10. Archie Moore
11. Ray Leonard
12. Julio Cesar Chavez
13. Alexis Arguello
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Rocky Marciano
16. Joe Gans
17. Carlos Monzon
18. Barney Ross
19. Jack Johnson
20. Manny Pacquiao

 

He has surpassed everyone you mentioned. Not even the "no mas, no mas" Duran will ever come close to him.

 

I think Manny should be higher than #20. "No mas" should not be in #4.

 

very nice list...

 

I would rank Joe Louis lower, maybe as #14. And Pacman #12.

 

Like I said before, how does ****ing Cotto makes you jump all the way to top 20 like that? atsch

 

Awful!!

 

pac is top 50 for me he has won sanctioned titles at:

(115) flyweight - WBC- 2 title defenses

(122) Super Bantamweight - IBF- 3 title defenses

(130) Super Featherweight - WBC- 0 title defenses

(135) Lightweight- WBC- 0 title defenses

(147) Welterweight- WBO- 0 title defenses

I don't count magazine titles or linear crap because those aren't title fights. he has 5 title defenses which is poor compared to fighters like roy, bhop and mayweather.

his lack of real comp coming up the ladder is why I rank him so low. fighting barrera twice and morales three times was unncessary and hurt is legacy. he could have been fighting juan guzman, humberto soto, nate campbell and juan diaz to make a real claim for greatness.

getting a gift against marquez and then fighting the weakest champ at 135, and 140, and 147 don't equate to top 15 greatness:deal

 

Your having a laugh mate. Joan Guzman at the time was a NOBODY. he wasn't even remotely known at the time. Humberto Soto is overrated and had god knows how many losses. Nate Campbell again was a nobody and even now he still is. Juan Diaz was a good fighter, but I'm sorry Pac would've destroyed him. Pac was all wrong for Diaz style-wise.

All in all Morales and Barrera >>> Guzman, Soto, Campbell, Diaz. Morales and Barrera along with Marquez and Pacquiao were CLEARLY the best fighters in those divisions. If Manny fought Guzman and the like instead of Morales and Barrera, he would've got shitted on by people and accused of ducking ATG's like Barrera and Morales. FACT.

Horrible fail mate. Try again. :deal We know your doing this just to make you boyfriend Floyd look better. No need to do that. Respect both fighters because they DESERVE it. Don't be a toddler. :hi: