Manny Pacquiao is now Top 15 ATG!!!

top 15 is too low IMO..

 

If PAc is Top 50. Floyd is top 200

 

:admin:adminatsch

 

I agree thats fact, at the time choosing Guzman or Soto
over Barrera, Morales or Marquez would be ridiculous.
Without fighting PAC Barrera and Morales would be still
at the top of the division right now.

The argument of small amount of defenses may be valid but it is
overrated as the whole resume of Joe Calzaghe shows the number
means nothing if you don't fight the proper guys.

What counts in PAC case he is not going down to chase smaller guys
(as Floyd) but with each fight he chases the bigger fish and destroys
them in impressive fashion. That is PAC quality and his own unique
asset at the ATG table. So with the impressive upscaling of
his wins he may bypass a number of other ATG fighters whos
resumes at particular weight classes is much stronger.

 

Are you ****ing stupid?. Pacquiao is higher than Hagler unless youre on crack

 

on crack must be the girl in your avatar .. at least on some steroid based beauty enhancements

 

I wouldn't say "no way". Whilst I agree with you and have Pac higher, Hearns and Duran are far greater than anyone Pac has on his resume (yes I know they were moving up in weight).

Again I agree with you, but I think the point is arguable.

 

Gotta disagree, his level had slipped by the Mugabi fight and after Leonard refused to give him a rematch, there wasn't really a great deal more he could do. I guess he could've gone to LHW to fight Spinks, but I think he'd have got his ass handed to him at that point.

 

Have you guys lost your minds? PaC is higher than Hagler and I love Hagler but besides Hearns and a bloated Duran his MW record is no more impressive than BHOPs at MW, full of second tier guys like the Hamshos and Sibsons of the world

 

:admin:admin:adminatsch

 

atschatsch..

Lampley: Where is he now in terms of ATG?
Steward: Well armstrong, Ali SRR you need to consider him at that level

Bert Sugar (Modern day fighter hater): Hes gotta be inside top 20.

where are you going with this ..explain yourself

 

I think you came from the future pare!
Pac is definitely an All Time Great but it's too early to say at where he is at this point of his career.

 

Hagler is the greatest southpaw of all time a UD over Duran is greater than any Pac win.

Cotto: B- Fighter.
Hatton: Club Fighter posing as a good fighter.
Dlh: Shot,Weight Drained.
Jmm: Controversal fights (JMM won both In many top experts eyes) and IMHO.
David Diaz: atsch
Morales: Was shot a still beat him the 1st fight.
Barrera: Full credit on the win but is no Duran.

Pac was hoping divisions never defending his titles.

Point is MMH never had questionable victories. He showed up and finished like your suppose to at their regular weight. Hearns another top win and Mugabi, forget about it. Pac is not there because he beat Cotto :admin. You cant be serious. Dont get carried away now. Sure if he can beat PBF which i think he will and then Mosley which i highly doubt then we can talk. Let the smoke settle Aight. :hi: Hagler with 62 wins and 52 K.O's stop playing man.