Manny Pacquiao is now Top 15 ATG!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by asero, Aug 5, 2009.


  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    grain, would you still put JMM outside your top 90?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    McLarnin beat more great fighters than Canzoneri, but their relative placings are fair enough. And Pacquiao is astonishingly good at weight jumping.

    The fact remains, your overating of current wins by fighters in terms of ATG status is ridiculous, and at a guess, somehow connected to "timelessness".
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ...that's actually a really good question. I don't have an answer currently. Also, it's an awful lot of energy to expend in the knowledge that he might pull off one of boxing's great wins in the coming weeks.
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Beating Cotto gets him at Leonard's legacy? No way. Beating Mosley would have been a nice win.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    everybody has him outside their top 100 before the diaz fight. Now after the diaz fight, JMM is in the same league as EM and MAB

    Mind you, putting EM and MAB outside top 85 is biased against small fighters
     
  6. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :yep:good
     
  7. Asero.... ESB's resident WUM.
     
  8. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny pacqiauo is not a step closer to becoming a fraud??? :huh
     
  9. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beating cotto even by ko doesn't get you into the top 15
     
  10. Fraud:
    1. Any act of deception carried out for the purpose of unfair, undeserved and/or unlawful gain, either valuable financially or comprising a legal right.
    2. The assumption of a false identity to such deceptive end
    3. One who performs any such trick.

    So, exactly how is Calzaghe a fraud?

    Has he assumed a false identity?
    Has he cheated to give himself an unfair advantage in a fight?
    Has he acted unlawfully?
    Undeserved advatanges?

    Did he ever, in the case the above is true, use it for illegal financial gain? Or to manipulate a legal right?

    Or, like we all know, you're talking out of your ass thinking you're a clever sausage, when in actual fact you're just a total, utter plebian who can't understand half of what is said to him.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Man I love these Pacquiao threads.

    He has only beaten one decent, live opponent above 130, in Hatton.

    Until then, JMM had a better + 130 resume with the Casamayor and Diaz wins.
     
  12. slo100

    slo100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okay bigger question, where will you rank Pacquiao if he gets destroyed by Cotto?
     
  13. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :-(
     
  14. Maelstrom

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    He has to do a LOT more than beat Cotto to be top 15 anything..let alone ATG.:deal
     
  15. Maelstrom

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    This ***** has rabies:lol: