" Manny Pacquiao is overrated""

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Samski313, Mar 22, 2010.


  1. chili

    chili Member Full Member

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    Pac is not a top 25 ATG. Here's off the top off my head that are ahead of Pac:

    Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Carlos Monzon, Sugar Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Floyd Patterson, Ezzard Charles, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Thomas Hearns, Pernell Whitaker, Marvin Hagler, Julio Cesar Chavez, Larry Holmes, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, Azumah Nelson, Michael Spinks, Lennox Lewis, Bob Foster, Alexis Arguello, and Roy Jones Jr.

    Pac is a very good fighter but let's not get out of control here. If you believe that Pacquiao is top 15-25 then Floyd is as well because he has just as good a resume as Pac has. Here's the facts:

    Ring Magazine Top 10 p4p list Jan 2000-Dec 2009 (120 months):
    FMJ - 105 months
    PAC - 73 months

    Ranked #1 in Ring Magazine p4p
    FMJ - 34 months (8/2005-6/2008) Retirement
    PAC - 18 months (6/2008-12/2209)

    Current or Former World Champs fought in the decade
    FMJ - 13 (Castillo x2, Chavez, Hernandez, Corrales, Vargas, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez)

    PAC - 13 (Larios, Marquez x2, Morales x3, Solis, Diaz, Cotto, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Julio-Rocha, Barrera x2, Hatton, De La Hoya)

    Record in the decade
    FMJ 18-0-0
    PAC 24-1-2 (Loss to Morales, Draw Marquez, Draw Sanchez)

    Opponents Record (Average)
    FMJ 37-4-1
    Pac 38-4-1

    I could go on but I think my point is made. Pac is very good and could eventually wind up high on the list but he's not there yet. Neither is Floyd for that matter. Remember you're talking about the best of the best!
     
  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    FAIL....SEE..IDIOTS LIKE THIS..THIS GUY SAID TOP 25 LMFAO:rofl:rofl ..U REALLY DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT BOXING AND THE HISTORY OF FIGHTERS...

    LMFAO..TOP 15-25...:patsch I HOPE HE WAS JOKING...
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    JESSIE IS A DAMN *******..HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE FIGHTERS U LISTED THAT I PUT IN BOLD...HE KNOWS MANNY PACQUIAO AND A FEW MAIN STREAM FIGHTERS..

    I MEAN THE GUY SHOWED HIS STUPIDITY BY PUTTING MANNY IN THE TOP 25 :rofl:rofl...HE HAS NO ARGUMENT TO PUT PAC THERE..HE JUST PUTS HIM THERE CUZ HE LIKES HIM AND HE IS HYPE...
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I HAVE NAMED A BUNCH OF FIGHTERS IN PREVIOUS POSTS..:deal IM NOT GONNA NAME EM ALL EVERYTIME U DAMN MANNY FANS ASK...GO THROUGH MY POSTS ITS IN THERE SOMEWHERE:deal:nono
     
  5. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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    You can complain all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that many boxing analysts would rate Pacquiao pretty high up there, perhaps in the top 20. Your hate is eating you inside out and it's really sad because you can't control your own insecurity. You sound like a pathetic loser that have not done anything significant in your life. Why don't you read a book about the right way to argue instead of worrying about why the *******s rate Pac so high.

    Your argument sucks because it's a vague generalization. Why don't you revise your proposition and create a Pro and Con chart. Give us the three common appeals of an argument such as (1) Reasons, (2) Ethics and (3) Emotions.

    You failed miserably, and you're all emotions and lack substance. Did you take your Midol lately? :lol:
     
  6. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao!!!!!!
     
  7. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great Post!!!:good
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bottom line is this....Manny is definitly an ATG. Where he ranks at the moment is NOT where he'll rank when he steps away from the sport when his accomplishemnts will be fully appreciated. Given the fact that MOST boxing writers, historians and insiders have Manny in their top 20 it's safe to say history will look favorably on Manny and where he ranks as an all time great. I see Manny still in the top 20 with his win of Josh b/c although it was a good win...it wasn't great...therefore he can't jump to the top 15 or to 10 without facing a guy like Floyd or Shane. Which I think he will at some point....I just hope its Floyd given that these two are still in their primes and at their overall best.
     
  9. (PimpThaSystem)

    (PimpThaSystem) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm asking you what is your top 25. I to want see if your legit or full of ****.
     
  10. steele311

    steele311 Wanna Dance? Full Member

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  11. dubfire

    dubfire Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. dubfire

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  13. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather - #1

    Has never lost, obviously the best.

    Record: 40-0 (100%)
    Average opponent record: 35-0
    ATGs beaten: Mitchell, Baldomir, Corley, Judah
    Notable accomplishments: Ducking, dodging master. Has more money than you.
    Aliases: Mr. PPV, Money
    Out-of-ring aspirations: Swaying public opinion of a more popular fighter through accusing said fighter of using PEDs while injecting his own hands with numbing agent.

    Notable Quotes: "Sugar Ray Robinson was good and all, but I'm UNDEFEATED"
    "Leonard, you're going too fast! Ouch! Stop it! At least spit on it first"
     
  14. dubfire

    dubfire Member Full Member

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    don't leave out the part where he beats on women.
     
  15. MyStyle

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    Samski313



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