Like I said before, Manny is very good and one of the best fighter of this generation but if people really think he's a top 25 ATG they are kidding themselves.
he is overrated.. but he is a great fighter. he's beaten many great fighters, so I think he deserves a place in the atg rankings. not in top ten though, I'd say 18-20.
Manny is overrated...tell that 2 Cotto, Hatton, DLH, Clotts thats at 147 ONLY..GUY STARTED OUT pRO AT 106 LBS. Bang! Bang! Bang! Lampley, good stuff.
i got him in my top 50...i dont know where all this bull**** talk of top 20-25 coming in..i suppose an argument could be made that he is better than some of those fighters that are in that 30-40 range but that is the best he can do..no way is the guy a top 25 at this point..he does have the opportunity to be a top 10 if he can get by a mayweather and a mosley..but as of right now top 50
I'm going to sit down tonight and give it some thought about who I would put in my top 10 p4p of just the last 25 years. That's from 1985-2010. I can tell you right now that PAC wouldn't even be on the top of that list so there's no way he would be in the top 15 or 25 of all-time. Think about the names that have fought since then: Shane, Tito, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, Whitaker, Chavez, Toney, Carbajal, Jones Jr., Ayala, Hopkins, Forrest, Floyd, De La Hoya, Spinks, Holmes, Qawi, Benitez, McCallum, Pryor, Gomez, Nelson, Sandoval, De Leon, Barkley, Haugan, Vaca, Nunn, Starling, Taylor, Norris, and Canizales. Think about some of the wars and fights those men fought against each other and other ATG that have slipped my mind at the moment. Can you honestly tell me PAC is better than all of them? If anyone can then I would love to hear your argument! Again, I'm not knocking Pac but it's an insult for him or Floyd at this point to be put in the top 15 or even 25 all time.
I was thinking the same thing but to the pac fans it doesnt matter who he beats....if you ask them his win against clottey pushed him up the atg rankings
Hey man I love watching the Pacman fight, but it is what it is. To beat the best while they're AT THEIR BEST is the only way to get real credibility. I still give credit to Pac though because he did fight much bigger fighters he wasn't even supposed to beat anyways. If this had been Juan Manuel Marquez or Chris John, how would this be viewed upon? I cannot be biased and only respect what is done in the ring. Manny has already beaten a top welter in Clottey, but not only beaten him, but dominated him so convincingly that I wonder if Mosley and Floyd, whom no doubt in my mind can beat Clottey, but will they dominate like Pac? Pac is top 25, but a victory over the winner of Mosley-Mayweather will cement his greatness at 147 and boxing history and would make him top 10-15. That would be the cherry on top and his most important win by far.
Tell that to 500 000 people who voted and thinks that Pacquiao is great next only to Sugar Ray Robinson. Also tell those boxing historians and other boxing journalist to **** off because Pacquiao is not supposed to be ranked top 10-30. :rofl You really think that you're more credible and can argue with those people? :yep