Are you trying to convince us or yourself? Seems like the latter to me. But state your case and try to do so objectively and without emotion.
Simple Mayweather beat Pacquiao in a dominant performance. Still both great fighters, but Mayweather will always have an undefeated record and a win over Pacquiao. Nuff said.
If Chavez or Duran had fought in Pacquiao era they could've been the goats, If Pacquiao had fought in thier era he wouldn't even had been top 50 atg.
Best amusement in ENG language forums I might get: posters who aren't " casuals " by their opinion. And pro boxing needs exactly casuals to press buttons: buy for ppv or to buy a ticket. Nothing different from other entertainment industries while ppl think: LOL, I'm not casual. Without casuals these ppl had to get another job or fight in the front of worldwide well known specialists for free.
I've learned that discussing how great a fighter is is pointless on this forum. Because nobody can understand the concept of p4p. Mayweather is better than Pacquiao. Hes literally better at boxing. And guess what Caleb ****en Plant would wash a prime Floyd 12-0 with ease. So......
Norton-Ali. Frazier-Ali. So Norton and Frazier > Ali. Got it. But I encourage you to apply some critical thinking skills. I say this not as an insult, but you're clearly looking at it from a very simplistic view.
Okay here: Mayweather 26-0 (10 KO) in world title fights 24-0 (7 KO) against former or current world titlists Ring magazine titles at 3 weights and lineal titles at 4 weights. Pacquiao 17-4-2 (8 KOs) in world title fights 25-6-2 (11 KOs) against former or current world champions Ring magazine titles at 3 weights and lineal titles at 5 weights. Similar accomplishments while Mayweather was able to stay undefeated and defeated the next best guy. I love Pacquiao a whole lot more than Mayweather, would rather watch him fight any day, but no I don't think he is as good. Pacquiao is an A+ fighter, Mayweather is A++
Record doesnt mean much. This isnt Olympic wrestling. In boxing you can pick and choose who you fight and when you fight them. Mayweather defeating Pacquiao is almost irrelevant as it pertains to their p4p rank. As I said before Caleb Plant washes Mayweather 12-0.
Of course it isn't even close. A lot of wrestlers in Olympic year had fought in national championship, continental championship and even eliminators for the Games. Then in the Games. In years when games aren't conducted there is World Championship. Such wrestler does have 20-30 and more " fights " each year with 0 cherry pick and there aren't old big names to beat up for fans. If wrestler is not in good shape, national team replaces him with another candidate. No corpses on the mats.
Counter: Manny Pacquiao was a mother****ing FLYWEIGHT who is a mother****ing champion in 4 different mother****ing decades and is competing at an elite level at mother****ing WELTERWEIGHT in his mother****ing 40s while being mother****ing undersized. And I ain't even mentioned the 8 weight classes, 5 lineal championships, and his most recent records. Whoops. Take a moment. Let that sink in, bro.