Manny Pacquiao - makes me feel like I don't know anything about boxing!

mayweather was roiding when he kidnapped his son and kicked baby momma to the ground

 

LOL mystery....

How many professional athlete reacted the way Pac did to a random blood test? uh... Mr. i'm afraid of needles.... It is quite disgraceful.

Let not even get into his obvious head growth. From regular sized 130lb head to a super middle weight size head. Pac must've had a second growth spurt.

 

I'm willing to keep my mind open on allegations of steroid abuse. But I'm not willing to play judge and jury without any substantial proof. There are elements of Pacquiao's career that are fishy, but if you accuse you must prove.

 

Jealous of what? Some message board ****wit who writes and sounds like he barely graduated from high school? Someone who comes off as so stupid I actually feel bad for sometime? that's what I'm jealous of? :huh
Oh boo hoo...a bunch of idiotic teenybopper fanatics don't respect me. that's actually a good thing Rube... atsch

 

Hey mr. Expert, you realize Pac never once said he was afraid of needles right? No, of course you don't know that, since you get your 'expert' info from other morons on this site. atsch You're a ****in joke to say this ****, while saying you're a boxing expert in another post.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:roflLMFAO! You sure as hell seem mad as usual...Let it all out you sorry *****!

 

well Floyd has won as we all expected


He waited and waited and fought infrequently and Pac eventually lost

So Floyd ducked the man for years and the man, the P4P has finally lost

What a victory Floyd!

 

I understand that suspicion, no matter how great AND justified, is not substitute for proof. However the "suggestive evidence" is do great that the responsibility now becomes manny's to prove his innocence.

When first prompted with drug tests manny and his team **** their pants, figuratively speaking. They went from "we're gonna beat this guy" to "we're not fighting him. he doesnt make the rules". And this is all after the roach camp made 3 requests above the commission regulations... to Floyd's 1. Oh snd Floyd agreed to all of manny/roach requests.

Over the next few years the pac camp rejected drug tests citing drawing blood physically/mentally weakens manny (even though it is scientifically proven to not physically weaken someone). While all these broken negotiations and odd excuses are being used, msnny is destroying much bigger fighters. Not via masterful technique but through overpowering his opposition, something which veryyyyy seldom in boxing.

All the excuses and a rejected request for osdt byJMM twice certainly leave a lot to the imagknation.

 

yeah it was just all his close friends, manager and promoters who said it

 

Well you're actually wrong. An accusation needs proof, period. In no way does a lack of proof lead to a conviction of the innocent. The "suggestive evidence" are based on subjective opinions and hearsay from people who probably don't exist. There are no witnesses, DNA, or coherent logical proofs to suggest steroid use.

I'm still not entirely convinced that it had to do with drug tests. Throughout Negotiations, from what I know, Mayweather was demanding dates, money, locations, and rules specifically to his request. His $40 million offer was a joke for what the total value of that package was.

For all I know the Pac team could've felt that certain testing methods were a waste of time and a competitive disadvantage so they left those off the table. When the other factors (money, location) came into play, they disagreed on the whole package and TMT decided to bludgeon Pacquiao's reputation by accusing him of steroid use.

I would like to see your proof of this. My friend drew blood at a school event and later passed the **** out. So I'm pretty sure you're pulling this out of your ass.

I guess you're absolutely right about everything. Goodbye.

 

Finally you see the lite. You don't have a clue. PAC is done as a big deal. Knocked out cold. Never was that good. Good marketing can make people like you believe that dogs hit is icecream.

 

Dude its 2013....

2009 was pretty amazing for pacquiao.

 

"There are no witnesses, DNA, or coherent logical proofs to suggest steroid use."

Re-read my prior post. Coherent, logical, indicative proof/thought process already posted.

Again, your bias for manny/roach is seething through your posts. My original posts mentioned nothing beyond the first negotiations with Floyd/manny. The only thing I mentioned beyond the first negotiations was the fact that it took manny years to "accept" OSDT (even though he never did accept OSDT: see JMM III/IV).

Floyd made one demand in the original negotiations: OSDT with a cut-off date of 14 days. manny/roach demanded 50/50 purse split, smaller ring size, and 10$ million penalty/per lb. Floyd came in overweight. Floyd agreed to manny/roach's three demands. manny/roach rejected Floyd's only demand.

Future negotiations led to a complete breakdown in the process. manny/roach/arum wanted an "outdoor stadium" :yep and Floyd went on to demand a percentage of purse which manny wouldn't accept.

Firstly, TMT wasn't around in 2009. That's a relatively new thing with Floyd.

Secondly, what type of "competitive disadvantage" could additional drug testing create? Keep in mind, jackass, that the testing is done by

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fighters. There is zero "competitive disadvantage" seeing how both fighters undergo the same procedure of tests.

Floyd/his crew didn't begin to accuse manny of using steroids UNTIL he initially rejected OSDT a la the first negotiations. Thereafter Floyd Sr., Roger, Jr. and anyone associated with the Mayweather's, as well as Paulie Malignaggi, Nate Campbell, other trainers and professional boxers, all made public statements suggesting possible PED use by manny/roach.

I do not need to provide proof of this. Donating blood, which is probably what your friend did, is different from having blood drawn for drug testing purposes. The quantity of blood involved (withdrawn) is massively different. In an OSDT test the sample of blood withdrawn from the body is minute. It is not possible for the body to undergo physical trauma as a result (unless there's an underlying condition of immunocompromise or hemophilia).

Also, keep in mind that both boxers undergo the blood testing not just one. So any "mental" damage which could be caused is something both boxers would be susceptible to. Again, this is pure speculation because the claim itself, that drawing blood mentally "weakens" one, is a wild, baseless claim.

Bye *******. Please show yourself off a cliff

 

Who won the litigation case?